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Hasegawa F-4E/EJ have two pods
Hasegawa A-10 comes with a pod made out from a napalm canister
Academy OA-37 do also have something similar
Modern Hobbies I think it had one but it appears their website it's kinda goner and this pisses me off as I wanted to order a couple of Pave Tack pods and Maverick launchers 😕
Experts Choice committed a error cause their 1/72 instruction pamphlet is the same for both scale and tells you to pick a 1/48 traveling pod from an F-16, on 1/72 you have to go after Hasegawa A-10 or who has an MXU 648 pod from Modern Hobbies
Luigi
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Hasegawa 1/72 F-16s do not have a travel pod, only kit that comes with a travel pod on every box is the A-10
Luigi
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Please consider doing stencils sets for certain aircrafts that are getting the "we ignore 1/72 scale" treatment from other companies or like Revell and Hasegawa which got their marketing department replaced by apes
Luigi
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At first I was like:
Why they painted the tail with a streetball player doing a Leo Strut?
Then I freaking noticed the rifle
Luigi
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What if the tail shape it's a spot on and can be mated to AZ Mig-17 fuselage ?
Luigi
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On 5/11/2019 at 10:06 AM, Modelkeenfan said:
Thanks for the reply. Now thinking it may be easier to make a machine with just an air to air loadout with aphids and some R23s and/or BM-1 rocket pods. As they were involved with contacts with Pakistani F16s and had a couple of air to air to air kills. So maybe would be a better option as after all the mig23 was designed and used as strike package escorts. So maybe a better option. Any comments? I have the linden hill "aghansti" decals so might be more appropriate vetsion. But let me know what you think.
Thanks again for your Iformation and give me your opinion on you think
I have the full mig23 zacto set for the mig23 so just loomi g for options
I think rocket pods with Aphids can be a certain option, not sure about giving up on them for a R23 and rocket pods on the belly, I scavenged the web for Russian book and magazine scans and the reference material I found it's kinda dull.
Military Photos had a great archive from that era but sadly everything it's gone, I think there is no Floggerman to be found anywhere nor I have Linden Hill decal sheet 😕
Luigi
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I think is a yes
I didn't check the discussion, I don't know how good Trumpeter 1/32 Mig is nor what you get inside, be warned that Mig-23 and 27 (and many others) are kinda particular as rail and pylon adapters do not follow standard rules so you can have for example
X missile or bomb
Fuselage adapter and rack for X missile or bomb
X2 missile or bomb
Fuselage adapter for X missile or bomb but Y rack for X2 missile or bomb
but also Y and Y for X2 missile or bomb cause I don't know really what reasons are behind it, was going to build a Mig-23 and found out that RV didn't include rails and adapters for it, it appears that I need to steal the fuselage adapters from Art Model Mig-23UB and use the rails from RV aftermarket R3M or whatever those SAHR Atolls were called, pretty much the same for Mig-27 and I guess will apply for Su-17M3 with Kh-25 missiles
Luigi
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I'm still wondering if the F-15 receive the F-4 treatment in terms of small panel changes or not, I'll try to raid flickr one of those days cause google search algorithm hit a newer low as in the past writing a bu/no with aircraft's name was enough to score a couple of pictures but right now thanks to those stupid marketeers in charge everything got screwed up.
Luigi
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14 hours ago, Mstor said:
Here's the H-264 boxing. Has the short airbrake and large bullet fairing on both vert stabs, but the wing tips are not the early pre-production.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Revell-1-72-F-15-Eagle-H-264-/273671654245
H-254 appears to be the same kit. Kit dates back to 1975. Certainly is an "early" F-15 kit.
I meant the instruction sheet shows you the differences between the wingtips ala "here's the thing you have to modify bro, good luck with that". The kit itself was reboxed by Matchbox or is the Matchbox reboxed, later Revell/Monogram parted ways with that thing and made their own version or two of it as I have spare parts from Monogram boxes which are not identical despite being the same
Luigi
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I was searching for Revell H-264 boxing camouflage and found wing tips layout in a instruction sheet taken from ebay, sadly I was in sandbox mode and I can't track it down.
So far mixing everything up and possibly making errors my findings of "find the difference challenge between production F-15A vs pre MSIP F-15C" are:
Cockpit area:
Red or orange sealing
Instruments panel
Ejection seat
No ECM so different trunk layout
Metallic blue/green/whatever bay
Airbrake area:
Different shaped plates where the fuselage mets the airbrake
Engine area (upper):
Feather covers
Engine area (bottom):
Saber drains
a good maybe is the ECS exhaust (?) as sometimes appears to be rounded and other times it does not
Hook:
found something about U and T shaped fairing
MLG area:
Metallic blue/green/whatever well
Different rims
Rims sometimes were painted in black
Nose area:
Antenna layout with both missing, added and moved antennas or probes
Upper intake area:
Rectangular panel missing on C models
Bottom fuselage:
this is another maybe something around the panel used to load gun ammunition
Vertical stabs:
Same counterweight pods
Airbrake:
External rib in the middle of it not present on every model
Fuselage right side where the canopy ends:
Another personal doubt due pictures scattered around the web is the absence of the rounded shaped vent
If earlier or TF model is in the mix then
Wing tips
Dorsal spine shape due different airbrake
Ejection seat
Some help from a real F-15 guru is really needed 😄
Luigi
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21 hours ago, GW8345 said:
Don't know anything about the VF-24 Red Flag exercise but yes, the BRU-10 adapter was used for the luggage pods (CNU-188 Baggage Pod) before the BRU-32/ADU-703 (commonly referred to as the bomb rail) came into service.
Here's another thread that talks about the BRU-10 Adapter, might have some useful info;
http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/303435-odd-etpod-on-early-f-14a/
Was talking about them ^_^
I remember a discussion about those pylons/adapters on the pic here on these forums, unfortunately I can't track it down and I was recently searching for their indicative names so I could scrounge better picks from the net as I no longer have any Tomcat book left on my stash cept for a 2015 international magazine.
Anyway many thanks again for your help
Luigi
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BRU-10 adapter is the name of the earlier bomb rack used by the VF-24 Tomcats during the Red Flag exercise and before that by those Tomcats with 300 gal drop tanks installed on Phoenix pallets which were converted as luggage pods?
Luigi
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On 4/13/2019 at 4:49 AM, GW8345 said:
You are correct sir.
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Most of the A-7C's were converted to TA-7C or EA-7L's in the mid to late 70's, only a hand full of Charlie's survived into the early 80's and only one of those (IICR) was painted in low vis colors (it was a test bird at Kirkland AFB and had some kind of bird on the tail). By the mid 70's, all of the A-7C were turned over to either test squadrons or the RAG's (VA-174 and VA-122) and I think a few were re-engined after they were retired and sold to foreign countries.
The only external difference between the C and the E was the wave guide conduits, the E got them shortly after Vietnam, the C's never did IIRC.
On 4/13/2019 at 6:01 AM, Finn said:I'm late for the party and I'm sorry, but many thanks again guys! 😄
Also thanks Habu, can't edit to get your quote through 😕
Luigi
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1/72 Hasegawa
1/72 Dropping
1/72 Macros_crap_for_ever
1/72 and_replace_them_with
1/72 Ace_Combat_Special_Aircraft_Kits
Luigi
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6 hours ago, GW8345 said:
Not sure what you are asking, are you asking if the A-7 can fly without the fuselage AIM-9 Launchers? that would be a yes.
If you are asking if the A-7 could fly the Launcher without the adapter (spacer) that goes between the launcher the fuselage, no, the mounting bolts are in a different location/set-up so you can't mount the launcher directly to the fuselage, you have to have the adapter. Also, even if you could mount the launcher to the fuselage, you couldn't load a Sidewinder, the back wings would hit the fuselage before you could get it slide onto the launcher.
For the lumps and bumps on the A-7C, IIRC it depends on the time frame. During Vietnam it had the same forward "belly pan" but the aft belly pan was smaller, I don't know if the avionics were every upgraded to Echo standards, I don't think they were. They also did have the strike camera that was on the belly by the tail hook and the wave guide conduits on the fuselage side like the Echo. For the Echo, the waveguide conduits came after Vietnam, around the 1975 timeframe IIRC.
I should have posted a picture of it, sorry 😕
Anyway I was asking if it could fly with just the spacer mounted without the Sidewinder rail on it.
For the A-7C my idea was a low visibility bird from the 80's, there are some pictures on wikimedia but the problem is that they are not clear and I'm always excluding museum birds from my researches due them being mix-matched shapes of the former selves
Luigi
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Since we are here a couple of question:
Could the A-7 fly with fuselage Aim-9 rail adapters without them?
The bottom of the A-7C fuselage had same lump and bumps of the A-7E or it was something amiss?
Luigi
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On 3/7/2019 at 9:40 PM, Mstor said:
I feel the same way. I love Japanese F-4EJ aggressors. There is a Facebook group, F4 Phantoms of Japan, that will often have photos of f-4EJ aggressors. Other than that and the odd post on some modeling forum, I find it difficult to find them. Then there's the question of decals. You can find F-15J aggressor decals, but very little for either the F-4EJ or F-104J. Its a shame.
Thanks, gotta scavenge Facebook for it, have joined so many groups that lost track of what I'm following and what I'm not, should make a secondary account just for scale modelling and military related things, but some groups are a tight with newer accounts with not content and I also hate taking pictures of myself and when people doesn't find a picture with my face they just go "oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh request denied"
On 3/7/2019 at 11:33 PM, Gary F said:Two Bobs did a sheet for aggressor F-104Js and Aeromaster and CAM did stuff for the F-4EJ aggressors, all in 48th.
I remember those, not sure if I can find instruction scans of them, one option in the Aeromaster decal was also very interesting 😕
On 3/8/2019 at 1:03 AM, dehowie said:The best way to search is go to www.yahoo.jp
You will get a lot more returns but be prepared to navigate Japanese only language sites to find great photos.
The images are out there you just need the time and patience to play around on sites only in Kanji.
There are thousands of great photos out there you can find it takes a bit of effort though.
The F-4 is very well covered by Japanese photographers i think though Google seems to exclude searching non English sites.
F-104 is covered ok but not aa many options so one of the Modelart or other Japanese special edition mags might be a good start as well.
I did that, lots of times, because it all started with a picture of an F-104J sporting four LAU-7 ? rails on which two of them were installed on the BL75 pylon and because I couldn't see the rail adapter I searched for them left and right with no avail. I partially solved Google problem by tampering with the search options panel but from time to time they reset back to default, Yandex is also good but their captcha lately is pure nuts, it takes one "search similar image" search some fast scrolling and captcha pops, as for your suggested books and magazine I'm going to fetch them asap
On 3/8/2019 at 10:31 AM, HomeBe said:F-104J/DJ
http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/aF1041j.html
http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/aF1042j.html
F-4EJ
http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/aF41j.html
http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/aF42j.html
RF-4E/EJ
http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/aRF4j.html
Worth a visit 😎
http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/pjieitaie.html
V.P.
been there, downloaded everything from that ^_^
Thanks guys !
Luigi
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From time to time I end up finding some interesting F-104J or F-4EJ sporting some unusual scheme but every single time I try to dig out more pictures nothing comes up...so IT is there a reason of why it's so hard to find pictures and let alone decals in any kind of scale of these two aircrafts?
Luigi
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22 hours ago, Wild Weasel V said:
Hi Luigi,
I agree that it's probable that some F-4E/EJ kits may mistakenly have had unslotted stabilators put in the box to confuse the issue. I think the belief that early F-4EJs had unslotted stabs might have come from pictures of the Photo Phantoms being mixed up with the fighters due to the similar paint schemes since the RF-4s retained the plain leading edge stabs and it's not the easiest thing to identify from most angles. Here's a link to the excellent Aviation Archives blog with an posting of an illustrated McAir report: F/RF-4 Phantom II Manufacturing Illustrations for Japan . If you look at page 31 (page 26 of the report) this shows the jigs for the slotted stabilator leading edges. I take this as definitive evidence that the F-4EJ had slotted stabs right from the beginning. Also, don't mix up the converted gun nose RF-4EJs and their camera nose RF-4E siblings. It appears that when the JASDF RF-4E order was being considered everyone (seemingly including McDonnell Douglas: RF-4EJ Phantom II for Japan Report) assumed they'd have a 'J' suffix, like the fighters, before they were built and delivered. Ever since then many publications have incorrectly referred to the JASDF camera nosed Phantoms as a 'RF-4EJ'. However since all JASDF RF-4Es were built in St Louis they have always been identified as a RF-4E by the Japanese.
About slatted RF-4Es, you''ll only find Greek and Turkish Phantoms so equipped. The slatted RF-4Es were an 'end of run' order just before McAir production finished in 1979. Since the tooling was set up for the F-4E it was simpler to build them with slatted wings. The stabs remained unslotted though, like all preceding RF-4Cs and RF-4Es. If you want to build a Luftwaffe RF-4E unfortunately it'll have to have a 'hard wing' 😉
HTH.
Jonathan
Thanks Jonathan, by RF-4EJ I always mean the normal F-4EJ equipped with reconnaissance pods, as for slatted RF-4E I noticed that Hellenic RF-4s have more ECM gigs than normal RF-4E and also have a different serial number, I can still have to find pictures of Turkish RF-4E with slats and I don't remember seeing any of them sporting slats when from time to time come to Decimomannu for exercise, must be rare sights
Luigi
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17 hours ago, Wild Weasel V said:
Yes, you are correct, the stabilators will be slotted on an early Kurnass.
All production F-4Es have slotted stabilators; only the YF-4E FSD jets converted from a F-4C and F-4D (63-7445 & 65-0713) retained their original solid stabs. In fact, if you see a 'USAF' gun nose F-4 without a slotted stabilator then it's either one of these two aircraft or a Luftwaffe F-4F being flown during training in the US as part of the 49th FW. On this subject there is also a myth that the F-4EJs were originally delivered to the JASDF without slotted stabilators, however there are several pictures of their first F-4s, 17-8301 & '302, over St Louis and on delivery to Japan clearly showing the fixed slat on the leading edge!
HTH,
Jonathan
Chances are that Hasegawa or Fujimi messed up instruction callings or added the wrong stabs on it, could be wrong but older Hasegawa RF-4EJ comes with normal stabs and I swear that the Thunderbirds boxing I bought years ago also had them together with a mix of grey and white parts in sealed bags.
Because I hate myself I'll go through old Koku Fan scans and see if there are any b&w pics showing unslotted stabs on earlier EJs, even though I was planning to complete (big word) RF-4E with slatted wing research and ended up in a den of Hellenic Phantom pictures, yet I was looking for Luftwaffe slatted RF-4E pics but I can't find any😕
Luigi
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No problems ^^
Happy modelling!
Luigi
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I have Atzec 72-054 with those options, if they will do the trick I will scan them
Luigi
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sorry if I resurrect this but I'm looking for RAF F-4J pictures concerning the belly and upper wings area especially for catapult cable attachment points and whatever the other cradle pins are called above the wings
Luigi
Su-57 from Zvezda, completely new!!!
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Right now I wish that Namco could or would have been more creative with their Su-57 schemes
Luigi