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  1. No worriesx it's far too easy to confuse things when dealing with "acronym soup" of modern military designations. I'm reasonably sure that during Desert Storm "dumb" ordnance (slicks or CBUs) was only loaded in singles direct to the pylons, TERs were not used on the A-10. I can't say for sure about the Mavericks, but single-rail mounts were at least the most common configuration. The link below gives a rundown of the typical loads used: DSTORM.EU - A-10 load tables The Modern Hog Guide can probably help you with more modern combat loads such as the A-10C may carry.
  2. I'm not an expert on 1/32 but from the product numbers you quoted I think you're confusing the Multiple Ejector Rack (MER) 632102 and the Triple Ejector Rack (TER) 632103. Both of these were developed around the early Vietnam war to allow several bombs to be carried on a single pylon, the main difference being the MER has a total of six mounting points vs. the TER only three (hence the name). In overly simplified terms, a MER is similar to two TERs connected front to back in tandem. As far as your model A-10 goes, are you looking to show off a realistic warload, or do you want to show an "airshow load" - an unrealistically heavy/diverse range of weapons that the plane may technically have been able to carry, but which wouldn't be seen in "real world" conditions due to weight restrictions, mission requirements, and other technical considerations. The MERs were cleared for use on the A-10 but rarely if ever seen operationally since the A-10 isn't really meant as a "bomb truck." A normal MER load would be six Mk 82 (nominal 500 lb) "slick" bombs, aka Low Drag General Purpose (LDGP). The TER is slightly more plausible, and might carry Mk 82, cluster bombs (Mk 20 Rockeye, CBU-87, etc) or theoretically 500 lb class guided munitions like GBU-12 Paveway or JDAM (GBU-38 IIRC). But in practice the A-10 usually only carries one weapon per pylon - leaving some empty to maintain reasonable range without external fuel. As for Maverick missiles (AGM-65), these need a launch rail and cannot be mounted on a TER or MER. When the A-10 first entered service the Mavericks had dedicated triple-rail launchers (two missiles with a third below, similar to a TER). It was found that using the inboard launch rails the AGM-65's exhaust potentially damaged the adjacent landing gear sponson and wing. This led in some cases to the inboard missiles being left off and the remaining pair carried in "slant two" configuration (top outboard + bottom rails). But as with the other ordnance, single launch rail + missile per pylon became the most common configuration.
  3. The Aerofax book covers most of that info (with obvious exception of the post-1990 updates). I skimmed that and a couple of other references in my library to compile that list and verify approximate dates. Probably in part because of its unprecdented longevity, there isn't a single comprehensive "modeler's bible" on the the B-52, but in addition to the Aerofax book I can also recommend the DACO walkaround book (which mainly covers the post-SAC era aircraft): DACO Uncovering the B-52H
  4. I can second @Gator52's suggestion of the Datagraph, but note that since the H-models have now been in service some 60(!!!) years, there are actually a few different phases of service that could be called "early" or "late." For the most part the major airframe changes correspond to three basic eras: Service Entry : Features of the H include: - "short" vertical tail (same as G) - Extended nose radome (same as G) - Unmanned tail - TF-33 turbofan engines - M61 Vulcan tail cannon (vs 4x .50 cal turret common to previous variants) Avionics Upgrades (circa 1972 - 1978): - Electro-optical Viewing System (EVS) added - pair of bulged "chin" fairings below nose - Phase VI ECM upgrades - various "bulged" antennae throughout airframe, including nose and tail - Tail extension - 40" constant section plug added between aft fuselage and gun turret (part of Phase VI ECM) Post-SAC era (circa 1992 - present): - M61 tail cannon removed ("Bobbitized"), replaced with flat plates with circular perforations ("cheese grater") to equalize pressure - New lateral "bulged" antennae at fuselage sides, roughly above aft wjeel wells The Datagraph doesn't cover the post-SAC mods as it was published in 1990.
  5. I doubt anyone's ever done a dedicated aftermarket sheet for the FSD birds, but several of the early gray schemes had only basic serial numbers on the tail and basic stencils you could probably use from the kit sheet. There are some interesting variations on the gray schemes before they settled on the "Hill Gray" pattern, take a browse through F-16.net and see if something grabs you: YF-16 and FSD photo album
  6. The Hasegawa 1/32 F-16A is based on the Full-Scale Development (FSD) airframe, so there are several detail differences from a production F-16A. The shape of both the wing and centerline fuel tanks are radically different from the versions used in service. It might be possible to modify the wing tanks to the new style, but the centerline tank has a completely different shape from the early variant. The other most notable difference is the ejection seat, which in the FSD airframes was the Stencel, whereas production aircraft had the ACES II. The web archive version of the late, lamented Habu F-16 database describes the various updates made to each Hasegawa release over the years: Habu site (archive) - Hasegawa 1/32 Aftermarket ACES II seats are fairly common, you may also try finding a full cockpit set (though one for the Hasegawa A may be hard to find). I'm not sure of an aftermarket source for the tanks, but if you need them you might look for spares from F-16C kits from Tamiya, Academy, or even the later tooling of Revell's F-16C/N. What decals are you planning to use? Depending on the operator and the timeframe, there were several minor changes made to the airframes over time that you may want to include in your build.
  7. Closest potential matches that I know of are both from Tamiya - as mentioned above, AS-7 "Neutral Gray" is a WWII USAAF color, and AS-32 "Medium Sea Gray (2)" is a postwar RAF color. I haven't tested either to confirm, but AS-32 is probably the closest in Tamiya's line. Note that there is also an AS-11 "Medium Sea Gray" (no number suffix), but this represents the WWII RAF color, which is closer to FS36440 aka Light Gull Gray, so much too light for your need. Since just about every paint line includes at least one gray color, you may want to browse your local craft and/or hardware (DIY, bot sure the UK term) stores for spray paints and do some test sprays to find the best match/substitute. Depending on the brand the control and pigment grain may not be as good as hobby paints, but I'm sure they'll be much cheaper than Tamiya's range.
  8. Ok, sounds like the color selections you're using should be good but the problem you're having is the same AS number paints not matching from one can to the next? I don't know how consistent Tamiya paints are, but this is the first time I've heard of a problem. Is it possible you're comparing a fresh color coat to one that has had weathering or clear coat(s) applied? Even a matte clear layer over an already matte finish can change the appearance of the color (same for gloss, or a mix of the two). Worth remembering that a *slight* variation in the "same" FS colors is actually realistic, since some variation occurs in reality (e.g. different paint batches, touch-ups over weathered paint, etc). As far as alternative spray paints, unfortunately no other hobby paint I'm aware of matches to any of the TPS colors so even if there is some slight inconsistency within Tamiya's line it's the closest thing you can get without a custom paint order.
  9. Not sure what makes you think the protoype seat in your link isn't an ESCAPAC. The key identification feature to me is the headrest shape: on the 105 this has a rounded top and the headrest "cushion" is a single material/finish. On the ESCAPAC the top of the headrest is squared off, and there are two vertical pads with a gap between the two (the single loop face curtain handle is also a feature of most ESCAPAC seats, but I believe some did not have this feature so its absence isn't definitive for ID). I found this shot of 71-1369 dated 1972 which seems to show the ESCAPAC headrest more clearly. First flight was May 10, 1972 so it seems unlikely they would have changed the seat that early since the ESCAPAC was already widely used in multiple airframes at that time. http://www.air-and-space.com/19720517 EDW/19720517 EDW 19 A-10A 71-1369 right front l.jpg
  10. Not sure what doesn't make sense, I specifically mentioned AS-7 above, which is the "neutral gray" in Tamiya's line. That color is meant to match the WWiI USAAF underside gray, which is similar to but not a precise match for FS36270. Tamiya did not release an AS spray to specifically match 36270 until their 1/32 F-16s hit the market, specifically AS-28 (which they call "medium gray"). Unfortunately Tamiya has never labeled their paints by FS 595 match (which is only applicable for some colors anyway). Matching Tamiya's AS line to the appropriate FS colors takes some educated deduction based on the paint schemes/aircraft types Tamiya intended to match (e.g. releasing AS-27 Gunship Gray (2) and AS-28 for the F-16. Making better sense of this is one of the goals of the paint tests I mentioned are in progress. Since there are officially* no names for FS colors, different paint manufacturers sometimes use the same name for very different colors. For example, Tamiya's AS-28 "Medium Gray" is FS 36270, whereas "Medium Gray" in the Testors/Model Master line is FS35237 blue-gray. The best way to match color for color is to find labeled FS matches whenever possible, and stay within a single paint line as much as you can. *FS595 is basically a color matching standard that refers to each color by a 5-digit code rather than a name. Some of these colors are modern versions of pre-FS595 standards that did have names (e.g. "Insignia Blue") while other colors that were first adopted under FS595 or its various updates have informal names that are commonly used in the hobbyist community (e.g. "Light Ghost Gray" is known as such because it was the lighter of two gray colors used in the F-15 Eagle scheme first developed as a result of Project Compass Ghost). Many of the commonly used "names" refer to the labels used in the Model Master line, since it was the first paint line that attempted to consistently match FS595 colors.
  11. More specifically what you see there is the "late" variation of SIOP, with the original white nose overpainted with FS36081 dark gray (which has a greenish cast under some conditions). This is the same scheme worn by 58-0185 "El Lobo II" during the Secret Squirrel CALCM mission to kick off Desert Storm (the only one on that mission still in SIOP colors). 58-0185 is still in this scheme, now on display at the USAF Armament Museum at Eglin AFB, Florida. SIOP colors, for reference: 34079 Dark Green 34201 Green (aka "SAC Bomber Green," mistaken as gunship gray above) 34159 Light Green (aka "SAC Bomber Tan") 17875 Gloss White
  12. I'm actually in the process of some paint tests with Tamiya and other sprays to confirm whether/how accurately they may match FS595 or other standards. I can't comment on any change or consistency issues with the AS series, but here are my notes on the colors you asked about (all notes are based on natural sunlight or daylight-balanced sources): My understanding is that AS-28 Medium Gray is meant to match FS36270, commonly referred to as Neutral Gray. This is not a standard Navy color, but is the lighter of the two grays on current Hill Gray II USAF F-16s (or the middle gray on the nose and tail in the 3-tone Hill Gray scheme). Tamiya's spray appears to be a good match to the FS595 chip. TS-32 Haze Gray seems to be matched to the WWII US Navy ship color by that name, which is a blue-gray color. The modern version of "Haze Gray" reportedly matches FS36270, which is distinctly lighter and less blue than TS-32. The darkest blue-gray color in Navy TPS schemes such as the Tomcat is actually Fs35237, which is technically a blue rather than a gray hue (36270 is fairly close match but lacks the blue hue). After comparing TS-32 to the 352237 chip, I would call TS-32 an approximate match, as it appears darker and slightly more "pure" blue than 35237. For the record, Tamiya's AS-25 seems to be a good match for FS36320 but in my test AS-26 was notably darker than 36375 (although it did seem to have an acceptable contrast in tone and hue from AS-25 for the two to work properly in a TPS or Compass Ghost scheme). If you only have these two to choose from I would probably go with AS-28 since the TS-32 appears too blue and too dark against the Tamiya ghost grays. I just picked up a can of AS-32 Medium Sea Gray (2), which is an RAF color but near 36270 that may have morre of a blue cast (i.e. closer to 35237). Tamiya AS-7 is also in this family, representing WWII Neutral Gray (the underside color for most camouflaged USAAF fighters & bombers). Judging from the cap color it is a lighter and warmer gray, but I plan to test this also.
  13. The 23rd TFW Flying Tigers' "sharkmouth" A-10s were featured on a number of kit decals and aftermarket sheets, so you can probably find something online. Note the Wing in that era was made up of the 74th, 75th, and 76th Tactical Fighter Squadrons, so those may show up instead/in addition to the 23rd Wing. Can't vouch for anything about this vendor but they show a sheet in stock with what you need: https://www.mustang-hobbies.com/mobile/product.aspx?ProductCode=ssi-480432&404;http://www.mustang-hobbies.com:80/product_p/ssi-480432.htm= Sounds like you're probably already through with painting in the vintage Euro I green & gray camouflage scheme? Shortly after Desert Storm the 23rd dropped the "Tactical" and became the "23rd Wing" ("Fighter" has been used on and off since depending on the wing's composition). The sharkmouth A-10s have remained a constant, but they transitioned from Euro I to the two-tone Compass Ghost Gray scheme and the tail codes changed from "EL" (England AFB Louisiana) to "FT" (for "Flying Tigers," worn while based at Pope AFB, NC, and later Moody AFB, GA). Since the gray scheme has been "current" for nearly 30 years, a lot of the more recent aftermarket decal sheets cover the later markings but the fundamentals are largely the same, other than the aforementioned tailcodes and some other minor details (which I assume wouldn't bother an 8 year old). 1/48 isn't my scale of choice so I'm not up to speed on all the options, but some of the sheets for gray sharkmouths include: Print Scale (A-10s Part 2) - includes gray sharkmouths & other units in Euro I TwoBobs Hope that's helpful.
  14. The technical term, to the best of my knowledge, is low voltage formation lights. The only dedicated photoetch set I'm aware of was done by Teknics in 1/72. They and Eduard may have done similar sets in the other major scales, but for the most part these elements are usually included on a type-specific PE set (if needed). The only glow-in-the-dark strip lights I know of were done by CAM Decals (the "first generation" of that brand). I believe it was their standard on sheets for all applicable types, but they did not issue a dedicated LVF sheet until the "CAM Pro" line - at which point they had abandoned the glow gimmick. Other LVF decal sheets (to correct color only, as these are often yellow or other shades of wrong in kit sheets) were done by Detail & Scale and Revell Promodeler. All long OOP but you still see them on the secondhand market fairly often.
  15. The DACO book has an unparalleled level of detail, but it wouldn't be a true "one stop shop" as far as color schemes and unit markings are concerned. The book is pretty much a stem-to-stern walkaround including open panels, cockpit, engines, and weapons. The SAM Publications "Comprehensive Guide" (from the "Modeller's Datafile" series) is a decent source of general color photos but the modeling info is limited and the factual accuracy, especially in captions, is less than stellar. I would say ir's worth consideration but only if you can find a copy for no more than $15 or so. A far more comprehensive resource is Airtime Publishing's "F-14 Tomcat - Shipborne Superfighter." This is lavishly illustrated (mostly in full color) and covers development, operating units, and service history. Unfortunately this one has been out of print for a while, but I'd consider it worth "collector" prices if you have any love for the Tomcat. On more of a budget, Squadron's "In Action" series has covered the F-14 in three different editions (No. 32 from 1977, No. 105 from 1990, and an un-numbered 2018 release in the current "all color" format) plus a "Walkaround" book. All editions should be reasonably available new or used for no more than $20 each. Each has mostly unique content so all are worth having, but if you're on a tight budget the 2018 version would be the "best buy."
  16. There's a previous thread that covers this and several other Blue Angels Skyhawk details. Short answer to your question is that the paraffin injection system has a small "wick" that protrudes from the top center of the "sugar scoop" fairing - photo in the thread linked below. http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/288246-blue-angel-a-4-smoke-system/
  17. You mentioned 1980s in your subject line but don't specify a nation or service. Some countries use very different colors of flight suits or other accessories, and even vary by region of deployment and/or aircraft type, so it'll narrow things down if you have a particular aircraft and/or country in mind. If you have any online photos you can use a "color selector" website to find the RGB values, then use a site like Encycolorpedia to find the closest match in hobby paint lines. https://html-color-codes.info/colors-from-image/ Typical flight gear you may need to confirm could include: - Flight suit - G-suit ("chaps" on fast jets) - Life vest and/or jacket - Gloves - Boots - Helmet - Shoulder/Lap belts - Leg restraints
  18. AMT released an "Early B-52G" version of their BUFF that included the AGM-28s and pylons. I've seen a few of these or the Monogram kits "parted out" on Ebay, or you might find someone with the parts to spare.
  19. Nigel - You're doing the Lord's work (in His One True Scale) to hash out the revised mods the "hard way," many thanks for your effort. Concerning the EVS chin pods, I suspect that in addition to the usual perils of photography not giving a true 3D representation, you may also be having diifficulty because of the base model's nose profile being "off" from the real deal. From the latest photos, one thing that stands out right away to me is the relative depth of the upper fairing and the optical turret. Using the Mk.1 Mod 0. Pave Eyeball, it appears that on the genuine article the top line of the turret is just about midway between the overall top and bottom edges of the chin fairing. It looks like your lower section is deeper than the top half, but I think this may be partly due to the base radome not following an accurate shape. Wish I could offer more specific input but once again all your effort is admirable!
  20. Any update on the "combo platter" for both Blackbird sets? I've been holding off ordering expecting this to be added to the website.
  21. If you can't find the cut piece or fabricate a reasonable replacement, why not find decals for a post-1993 unit? Should be plenty of options out there. Most fighter units had started the transition to the "Mod Eagle" scheme by that point so you can have a neat contrast with the Soesterberg bird in Ghost Grays if you build that one later.
  22. While I can't give you a 100% definitive answer, I can say that none of the F-15As or Cs I've seen during or immediately after Desert Storm had the fairing removed. This change was originally unique to the F-15E (which was brand new at the time) and was only adopted on the fighter variants well after ODS.
  23. Nigel - I have a pretty good reference library on the BUFF and compared your master to the best photos I could find of the genuine article. Until someone can take a tape measure to the 1:1 tanks the size will remain somewhat conjectural, but I think you're really close on the overall shape. The constant-profile central section looks perfect relative to the pylon leading and trailing edges. The only suggestion I can make is about the nose shape. It looks like your master may have one or two subtle "break points" in the nose where it transitions from a cylinder to a truncated cone, then to a smaller rounded cone with a hemispherical cap. On the real thing the nose has an elliptical profile (ogive) with a smooth transition - i.e. the profile curve "flattens out" so gradually that you don't see any obvious transition point. Frankly this may simply be a function of the angle and/or resolution of the photos, but since you're trying to get this "perfect" I wanted to share the input. Unfortunately my references are hardcopy and I don't have scanner access at the moment, but if you need photos of what I'm describing let me know and I'll find some way to get them to you. If you happen to have access to a copy of B-52: Aging BUFFs Youthful Crews by Francillon & Lewis, page 57 and page 75 have the best illustrations I've found thus far. Thanks for sharing this great effort!
  24. Not sure which reviews you're referring to, but the injection-molded intake cover was an addition made by Italeri after they acquired the A-7E tooling previously released by ESCI and AMT (it may also be included in Italeri's A-7D of the same provenance, but I don't have Italeri's version of the D to confirm). So only the Italeri kit has the cover, but the plastic by AMT or ESCI is otherwise the same. There's also a "related" tooling of the Corsair family boxed by ACE and possibly IDEA - seemingly "inspired by" the ESCI kits, so no covers there either (Scalemates incorrectly notes the ACE kits as copies of Hasegawa). I'm extremely happy (and to be blunt, shocked) that Darren may be interested in producing these as aftermarket for the 1/72 kits. Guess not everyone got the memo that this scale "doesn't sell"? I'd love to see them in black to use the VA-22 decal from Almark's vintage sheet for the Enterprise cruise.
  25. Mark's Air Graphics link worked fine for me "as is," but it may take a moment or two for the page to load properly. AC-055 does seem to be the correct product number, the Durandal set is AC-185. Though it's not currently available anywhere that I know of, a 1/72 Elta 8222 was also done by Paragon (in fact I believe they did them in all three major scales). https://www.scalemates.com/kits/paragon-designs-72070-elta-ecm-pod-8222-mount--997461
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