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18 hours ago, foxmulder_ms said:
Do you mean J-16?
That is more similar to Su-30.
It will not be very difficult to build a J-16 out of a Su-30 kit.
Well ... depending the own modelling skills! In fact it would be beyond mine ... but why converting a Su-30MKK with a lot of work, when there is a J-16 already available.
At least for my taste the modifications would be too many - and my skills too limited - so I would rather go directly to the J-16 kit or maybe do a kit-bash. -
Well ... both are totally different Flanker-family members. The Su-30MKK (lower image) is a twin-seater striker/multirole fighter with - just in short - several changes on the landing gears, rear section and especially its tails, whereas the original J-11 and J-11A (top image) is a single-seater fighter based on the Su-27SK.
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On 8/19/2023 at 7:08 PM, flanker27 said:
Just FYI in case someone is interested, there is a two seater J-20 model by Dream model in 1/72 scale
Really? Is there a link available or even images????
PS: Just found: Chinese J-20S 'Mighty Dragon', DreamModel DM720023 (2023) (scalemates.com)
On 8/20/2023 at 5:19 AM, DET1460 said:NATO names as stated above...
Two syllable names- Jet power. Single syllable names= props.
Thought this might help.
DET1460
From my understanding, the J-20 has not received an official NATO/ASCC name but most often the name "Firefang" is mentioned
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On 5/9/2023 at 5:21 AM, foxmulder_ms said:
It is far from certain that J-20"B" will be the only version with WS-15.
a) Current J-20"A"s might get WS-15.
b) Current J-20"A" production might continue with WS-15 for some time.
Well ... but IMO that makes not that much sense!
IMO either only the J-20B is ready and then it will enter service first with the proven WS-10C which will be replaced later by the WS-15 or the J-20B is ready with the WS-15 already, but then there won't be a continued production of the J-20A.
IMO the B-model is the one optimised for the WS-15 as such I rate it unlikely that the J-20A will get yet a third engine and remain in production. -
On 5/7/2023 at 4:57 AM, Curt B said:
Interesting. If the airframe in the forthcoming kit remains 'as is,' do you know what the correct engine nozzles should be? Are there any aftermarket nozzles that may fit?
If they want to make a current production J-20A - and that's how the CAD looks like-, then it should have WS-10C nozzles but unfortunately I don't know if there is any aftermarket product available.
As for the WS-15, this is the so far best image we know showing one WS-15 on a prototype:
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PS ... One issue I see however is, if this kit indeed includes the WS-15 nozzles, than it should be more likely the new J-20B with the new radome and revised spine and not the regular airframe.
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On 5/3/2023 at 6:56 PM, Curt B said:
Hey All,
I just this morning noticed some internet info about a forthcoming 1/48 scale Meng J-20 Chinese fighter plane. I have been intrigued with this aircraft since first becoming aware of its existence, given its interesting design, which includes canted vertical stabilizers and canted canards. I guess it kind of reminds me of a modern F-4 Phantom, with these canted surfaces. I had been wondering if anyone would come out with a 1/48 scale model of this plane. I saw that Trumpeter had a kit in 1/48 from a few years back, but I've always been suspect of Trumpeter's details. I'd been hoping that a model company with a better reputation for details would someday decide to model this plane, and, in my opinion, Meng fits the bill, though the Modeling News photos show a pretty minimal cockpit. This may be accurate, however. I am curious about the name of this aircraft, as I believe the English translation of the name has been 'Mighty Dragon', but the Meng kit refers to the name 'Veyron'. Maybe Veyron is the NATO reference to this plane? Anyway, just wondering if anyone else is as interested in this forthcoming kit as I am.
Really? is there already an image or anything else known?
By the way, I think it is not yet official, but the J-20 is rumoured to be the Firefang as per the ASCC code.
PS: I found a bit
https://www.themodellingnews.com/2023/04/mengs-148th-scale-j-20-veyron-in.html -
8 hours ago, Bsin said:
Very nice. Haneto, when are your friends at GWH, going to release the F-14? 😉
No, not another F-14, we need a J-16 and a J-16D
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On 1/15/2023 at 9:35 PM, mario krijan said:
Very nice box and decal options!! We need to ask PLA to paint their flanker in more colorful scheme 😛
Well ... in fact I like the latest low visibility markings - esp. on the PLAN NA Su-30MK2 with the eagle on the tail - very much!
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5 hours ago, haneto said:Best goods for upcoming lunar new year!Happy Chinese New Year!
Wow! Any more info on the options?
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Does anyone have more info on this one? Seems as if GWH has released a 30th anniversary Chinese SU-27SK set!?
But even more important, will there be a J-11B/BH/BS/BSH/BG and BHG??
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I would love to see a J-16! 😛
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On 12/3/2017 at 9:17 PM, Deino said:
Thaihang is the name of the Chinese WS-10
But besides the prototype 554 (and eventually 555) and the first J-15T demonstrator no J-15 has WS-10s fitted.
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Well, there is another surprise ... the J-15S has finally entered PLAN service
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16 hours ago, Niels said:
You should be able to convert a regular SU-27UB for making these.
I know, ... but the most limiting factor is not money but my most limited modelling capabilities. 😔
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Wow ... but anyway; I want a J-16 and a J-16D! Even if I'm aware that they are structurally vastly different alone due to the lack of canards.
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13 hours ago, Gwen Phoenix said:
Yes, there are already pictures on their Facebook page advertising kit #8002. Not my cup of tea the J-15, tho.
Cheers,
Gwen
Really? But I wasn't able to find them on this site...
(1) MINIBASE SU-33 build group | Facebook
Anyway this is even more interesting, since the first catapult-capable serial aircraft has been spotted this week:
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Any plans for a Chinese J-15? They are already building it within Batch 04 and as it seems the CATOBAR capable next variant is also already in production ... ☺️
Even more since there are now more J-15s in service than Su-33 ever have been built. -
8 minutes ago, haneto said:
Yes the 3 digits for 2nd Div. was applied in late 90s, which is no more the initial tactical numbers they had when they were just imported from Russia.
Regarding the Tiger head badge from 1st Div. , it is included in the L4827 Su-27UB kit.
Think maybe better to add more variants in the single seater this time. 😉
thanks!
That's interesting, so they got 2-digit numbers when being delivered, received 3-digit serials later in the 1990s before getting the new number scheme in yellow serials even later (2005 ? if I'm not mistaken), which was changed again in 2016/17 to the brigade pattern.by the way, will there be a dedicated J-11A at a later date ... and also the J-11B and BG?
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1 hour ago, haneto said:
Hi guys
Since there is potential concerns about photo copy rights, I have to upload the profiles of 6 markings for upcoming GWH L4824 1/48 Su-27 “Flanker B” kit.
(Suppose to discuss more interesting background history of each airframe with you guys to have more fun, but unfortunately lack of my summarized photos, very little can be discussed...)
Especially interesting are those of the 2nd batch to the PLAAF 2nd Air Division, since they also had briefly 3-digit numbers.
And another option would be those from the famous 1st Air Division at Anshan with the Tiger head badge:
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This may help at least for the start ... The J-16 has no pitot, a grey or even light grey radome, twin wheel front landing gears and an IFR-probe.
https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1239116401899646976 -
By the way ...
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Yes ... in the closed group!
SU-30MK same as Chinese J-11?
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Sorry in case I misunderstood your question and focused too much on the Su-30MKK and J-11 issue, since they are indeed different.
However - like @foxmulder_ms noted - the PLAAF operates indeed a few original Su-30MKK, which were updated a bit in recent years and not to forget the PLAN NA operated also a few Su-30MK2 dedicated to maritime attack but they have been handed over to the PLAAF just recently.
Here a typical MKK
... briefly a few were even painted in green/tan or sand/tan
... and here the naval variant MK2
... just briefly before handover to the PLAAF they received low-viz markings and an eagle tail art