Six Gun

John, haven't been on in a while. All I can say is "WOW" that is one of the most amazing pieces of artistic skill I have ever seen. I'm just blown away. Like GT said, it feels like you could just unfold her and fly away! As far as donating her, I (or GT) would be honored to have her, but that would be selfish. Anyway GT and I would just fight over it! If you would like to find her a home at the Unit, I would be happy to see if there is a suitable venue for display and ensure it is treated with the respect it is due. Just let me know. Again, great work and "Thanks!" Doug

John, IIRC, the "Greenhouse" panels above the pilots heads were tinted dark green. Hence, the term "Greenhouse" . GT???

John, Looks great! Don't know if you care or not, but there is a 3rd arm that goes from the rack to the fuselage. You can see the wire bundle strapped to it in some of the photos. It goes forward to just below the bottom rear of the right front door, to complete a tripod like attachment. Doug

Acutally, I just reread John's question, and you are correct. The plexiglass panels ABOVE the rear doors were tinted green, but were all replaced with sheet metal as they became expensive and unnecessary to rebuild. My statements re: the rear door panels are correct, also. Doug

John, GT would be more akin to the Red Baron, as he is much older The tabs you see on the nav lights are the IR position lights. Basically a "Cat-Eye" light painted with several layers of paint to only allow the IR spectrum of light throught the lense. There is one on the tail, also. We hardly ever used the "Slime Lights" as they were visible to the naked eye. It's the same light used commonly on older avionics and warning lights. The rear windows got damaged so often, we eventually started replacing the clear plastic with sheet metal. Some of the panels were painted black, because

John, I can't believe how detailed and excellent your model is! I can't wait to see it finished. The belly photo from the museum is making me think they took a stock OH-6 and made it look like an AH. I'll have to look into that. The rocket pod mount is correct, and the minigun was stock M134. The bundle of wires running to the pod are from the cockpit, from the rocket intervelometer. Located on the right side of the glareshield. That's how we controlled the rocket select. Usually an illumination rocket or flechette round was loaded in #1 or 2 tubes. We had to set the intervelometer by

Hey John, Yes, the C's were used in Grenada. There's actually a news clip taken from a hillside showing GT and his copilot Cpt. Mike Timpani being fired upon (that's Popcorn Big Guy!) and turning around over a bay. The attack went during the daylight, because the Navy CINC for the m ission wouldn't believe the capability of the TF. It was that classified. So after Grenada, we started doing "Dog and Pony" shows (capability demonstrations) for every flag officer they could find. Those had some funny moments! We would put VIP's in the left seat of a gun bird or a MH and they would fly a

The rocket mount in the pictures from the museum are correct. The main cylinder shown is a jettison device. The mount slid into the jacking point, and the 2 arms picked up other attaching points. We actually hung 19 shot pods on this same mount. The "excess" GW was supposed be jettisoned in the event of engine failure. Yeah right! This mount was used until the "plank" came along sometime in the late 80's IIRC. So it would be correct on the C, F and G model, I think the plank would be correct on G and later. Doug

John, Yes, that is the Davtron Digitial Clock (you can see the 2 white buttons on the face, the glass faceplate would have been a dark blueish green. There very well could have been 3 KY control heads, I just can't remember at this point. Your control heads are correct, those models, C-8157/ARC could control a 28 or 58 box remotely mounted.

John, All of the caution/warning lights were covered with a removable green filter. If you look at the MiniGun Control panel on the right side of the upright pedestal, you can see covers on the annunciator lights. The segmented caution light panel had a one piece cover that was removed for day flight (not shown in the picture). The Engine Out and master caution lights also had covers, removed for day flight. The Army, in its' infinite wisdom, felt you had to be able to see the RED when the Engine Out light illuminated, like you wouldn't know what it was! BTW, the round instrument abo

I just managed to find this thread., Duh. Your work is amazing! I'll have to research the KY gear. GT, I don't remember getting KY-58's until the F model (Pooh Thunder). The 58 was totally self contained and 3 were mounted in a panel behind the right pilots head in the F. I remember 28's in the C, with remoted control heads (2) mounted between the pilots with the boxes on the shelf in the rear???? Edited to add-Actually, after some thought, I believe GT is correct. The remote control heads in my first link could be used with KY-28's (NESTOR) or KY-58 (VINSON) and the units used were KY

It was leased vessel, with a landing deck. (cheaper than a Navy Frigate) out of the oil rigs. Not operational nor classified at all. It was very difficult to operate aboard a Navy ship in those days, and I understand it still aint easy. Doug

If anybody is interested :) , there are 2 different models pictured in the image of the birds firing rockets. The lead is an AH-6F and the wing is an AH-6G. Note the different exhausts.

Correct, Doug

John, The AH-6C's never deployed to Prime Chance nor Desert Storm. By 87, the C's were well on their way to being used as trainers only for "Green Platoon", eventually to be converted into MH-6C's, strictly for training. The C's were the first AH-6's, purpose designed for a special mission, not prototypes. By 87, the F's were being converted to G's, which replaced the C20B with C30 engines, resulting in the straight exhaust, out the tail. (no more pointy egg tail). We did not use any armor plating, until the F's, and only then if we could afford the weight increase. We did try stuffi