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12 hours ago, ChernayaAkula said:
Would you kindly retract that part about the mentally ill?
Thank you.
Yes, of course , done.
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16 minutes ago, sierrascale said:
You forgot anal-retentive resin snorters.
When a kit really deserve some good quality resin detail or correction set ( the kind of stuff that needs more than scratch build) I must admit I am one of these !😋
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As always in this kind of situation, the fools and mentally ill won't recognize themselves, but anyway, life goes on and , this model will arrive on shops shelves and on stashes and Zacto will be happy as he is going to have some work (for some) with all the red lines ( to be verified) and well earned bucks coming in ...Life is nice !
Amen.
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On 8/18/2019 at 7:18 AM, Solo said:
I hoped after 200 this thread will became more valuable, but now I believe it won’t.
It's now more than 200 pages that ARC has proven to be the refuge for people acting like they would suffer from some mental problems , for all frustrated and fools of all kinds. In fact a very beautiful image of our society! -
On 4/29/2019 at 4:58 PM, ya-gabor said:
Just before the MiG-21 here are some or most of the hostages that I took from Moson. First the kits.
Modelsvit kindly presented me with that sample boxing of the new Fishbed. Thanks! I was very much looking forward to that Mirage III kit. This was the time to buy it! Had a look inside the box and it is fantastic, I am sure that a natural metal version will be built from it to show off that beautiful surface!
A very interesting kit that I have seen on some forums was on sale and there was no way that I am going to come away without it. The aftermarket company ACE has made a full injection moulded model of the Ka-25 PS in 72 nd scale. I have been looking for this helicopter ever since Airfix had it made, was it 40 or 50 years ago.
Missing till now from the stash was a selection of Zvezda kits including several Mi-24 versions and the two seater Su-27UB. It will be fun to do it and put it next to the SM kit. Thanks Andrey!
Of course there are some bits and pieces also. Some Begemote decals, what else to go with the Zvezda kits. That fantastic MG-42 gun from the Polish Master. Anyone who has visited their stand knows what I am talking about! Some Cold War Studios MiG-25 parts will come in very handy for the ICM kit.
I bought two interesting photo etchings. One is from a Kiev based A2 company. It is a detail set for 72 nd MiG-29 kit, the 9-13 versions but having had a closer look at it, most of the parts if not all are perfect for a 9-12 version too. So just in case I have 2 of the sets.
Another set of interest was from A.M.U.R and it is for 48 th scale Su-27’s with all the gills and intake boundary layer vents. What is interesting about it is that it is made from 0.05mm steel and not the standard 0.2 brass as used by all makers. This results in a paper thin product which if placed on top of the kit surface, perfectly blends in without sticking out for miles like other 0.2mm brass products.
As a prelude to the MiG-21 I had to buy the Second edition of the WWP MiG-21 In Detail book. It is designed for those who missed the first edition a decade or so ago. It is slightly shorter, but mainly because the photos have been rearranged for a better coverage. Some were left out and a lot of new stuff included, like perfect quality period photos of some schemes. The 2 nd edition is, I would say more modeller friendly, there are several drawings explaining the differences between Moscow and Gorkiy produced aircraft with more and far better detail than Edu ever did.
Now next up will be a box opening of that new MiG-21F-13
Best regards
Gabor
Hi Gabor
Many thanks for all this infos. Especially for the ones on the book. Ordered and paid for it today, Waiting now patiently for delivery !
Madcop, aka De Vilbiss !
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22 hours ago, Darren Roberts said:
I'm not defending the model at all. It is what it is. I'm merely stating a fact that from a production/cost point of view, they aren't going to change all of the listed items because only a very small minority of builders will really care about it. There are errors with every kit released. There are things that could have been done better with every kit released. I can knitpick the Tamiya kit like you wouldn't believe. I never expected AMK to change anything because of above stated reasons. It should surprise no one that it's not been changed. The reason this has blown up in AMK's face is because they made the claim this would be the best Tomcat ever and then kept delaying. If they simply released it, people would have been much more forgiving and much happier with the final result. They would have noted the errors and moved on. Look at the Academy F-4. There are a myriad of errors, but you don't see 173 pages hashing it out over and over again. People still think it's a decent kit, even with the errors. That's what the AMK Tomcat should have been. Alas, we have this thread that never ends...
Thanks for this Darren
If it weren't for you and some other people who still have some good old common sense, we could believe this threat only concerns some mentally ill people….I think that this community deserves a better image.
Madcop
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Dogs bark but the caravan passes...on the very long and dusty Silk Road.
160 pages of whatever you may name them, but I keep confident, com or no com and still happy to have indigogoed !
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On 9/29/2018 at 1:27 AM, Nino_Belov said:
Belive me my friends, I am in greatest anticipation for this model kit, and hardly wait it's showing on store shelfs.
Hi Nino ,
How about your morale ?
Madcop
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6 hours ago, Space Tiger Hobbes said:
True. But not 140 some odd pages repeating the same complaint - about a kit NOT available in the market. In addition to the un-redeemable pain and suffering on a massive scale AMK has caused by the excruciating wait people have been forced to endure. (You should talk to the people who were waiting for a good 1/48 Boulton Paul Defiant.) Their pain will never be assuaged. And, as you can see since Martin's recent post, the unhappiness continues unabated. This landscape of modeling misery has no horizon.
Yeah, some have already committed the irreparable and the growing number of suicides by hanging and attempts in recent times attest it , but, unfortunately for us, it looks like some didn't make up their minds yet.
Madcop
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2 hours ago, Zactoman said:
Please do post any additional pics that you are willing to share. The more pictures we can see, the more likely we will be to figure out if there are problems or not and what can be done to fix them if they exist.
I must be dreaming ! ...Even you… You must be kidding... or maybe already planning some hypothetical updating resin parts ?
Madcop
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1 hour ago, Andrea Bolla said:
Official distributors should not have charged anyone for preorders, so the only ones monetarily committed are Indiegogo supporters and those who made preoders from non official distributors.
Have not seen any official release date from AMK other the one involved with the preorders target that was not achieved, so the only ones kinking ahead release date are seller still taking preorders. I hope to see the kit soon but AMK owes nothing to me even if I paid for my preorder (it was my choice to order outside official distributors paying in advance).
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Hi Gänger
"Cop, that’s perfectly fine by me, and I admire you not to care. Now, having you pre-ordered, I think you ought to care a huge lot the way AMK is running business, lest that, in case that you ever needed to complain, you be told that the way AMK runs business is not of your concern; this meaning as well that you’re not even allowed to learn what the status of the kit you’ve pre-ordered is, and also that the deadline for its releasement date is subject to be continuously postponed until AMK see fit, without them even having to let you know. Surprisingly, isn’t it exactly what AMK is doing right now?"
If I were you, I would have said that " before pre ordering, take care and inform yourself about the way AMK is running his business "
That's what I did and I have no fear at all.
After that, the only thing I have to do is WAIT until the project is O.K. and the kit delivered.
AMK owes me a scale model , and nothing more.
AMK never asked me money, they proposed me to help them developing a non profit scale model. That's quite different. Lot of people forgot about that, but AMK just want to recover their initial investment , both in time and money. So it's a zero benefit affair ! That's all. Can you give me another example of non profit model-maker ?
So I helped them through Indiegogo hoping for the best. I am still confident that the best is on his way. When shall this best arrive, I don't know and I do not want to know , but it will come ! I have enough much more important matter to be concerned about.
"if this thread is a pamphlet is partly owing to the way AMK is not communicating in an efficient way."
So it seems that you agree with me. The causes, do not matter even if I must admit that "communication" ( I hate this typical nonsense 21th century word) is not the best they can do, but I do not care as long as the final product is O.K. I sent my money not to hear them but to receive the quality product I am expecting from them.
Only the end result counts, the rest is bullshit."it was Martin the one posting that he would bring those samples to Telford, and yet, he said it himself that he did show some of the F-14D kit last project there. "
Excuse me, but Martin never said that , he said " IF I can have the pieces I'll bring them to Telford and... blablabla....
That's what he did with the pieces he was able to have to show, actually not the pieces you would have wanted him to have....!.
"You were asked to commit and now you’re being disrespected by their not letting you learn about the last particulars of the very kit you helped financing."
I repeat, I was not asked ...
I never pre ordered on the condition that AMK should reveal me every aspect of the development and production and date of release.So, no problem for me here.
"I do really hope AMK deliver the promised (and accurate) kit within what’s little time left in 2018 . If not, you’re gonna drown, I guess"
I told you that I am not interested in the release date of the kit, but even if it were the case, do not worry I have endurance. As for the quality , I still do not fear, Sio is a perfectionist.
Could I die before the kit is released ? ...yes of course, like you or everybody else here in the two following minutes, but in that case I really won't care anymore (just as today) So, no change here!"Had better not guess, but there’s quite a difference between being insulted by AMK than it is to feel betrayed by them. Let’s just hope the kit is indeed released in 2018."
I never felt insulted by AMK and now you must understand why. I'll feel betrayed the day AMK announces me that they drop the project, that the moulds are being sold to another company, and that they thank me for the money I gave to Indiegogo, money that they unfortunately will never receive !
To be honest , I hardly can conceive such a sad end !.
"On the other hand, you see brands like Tamiya, who not only are efficient in the way they announce, but also they’re a lot more serious about the way they conduct their business."
You can't compare a "Monster" like Tamiya and a " Hobby family" affair like AMK.
AMK is doing kits as a Hobby, as a side non profit activity, when they have free time and in such a way they don't interfere with their main activity and not LOOSE money, while achieving high standard. Tamiya is just the contrary.( Except for the standard , of course !)
Cheers Doppelgänger and stay cool , it's only plastic you know !
Madcop
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40 minutes ago, shion said:
Main difference between Kickstarter and Indiegogo:And if you look AMK Indiegogo campaign:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/amk-88007-f-14d-super-tomcat-preorder#/backers
and look at the goal:
Or is it an optical illusion here too?
Optical illusion, AMK will receive the money from Indiegogo when they will show proofs that the kits have been dispatched to the contributors.
I won't quote my source.
Amen
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1 hour ago, Janissary said:
Really trying to understand here the mold 1 vs mold 4 (really). On November 5, Martin posted this:
Doesn't this imply that what we were looking at was indeed the final version? It says (1) what we are seeing in those pictures is an optical illusion due to the angle, (2) there is nothing wrong with the backside, and (3) Samples would be shown at Telford.
I honestly cannot explain why if everything was an optical illusion and nothing was wrong, why is there discussion about new molds now. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
RTFM you st..
13 minutes ago, Dave Roof said:Your (not meaning you directly, your, as in generalizing all) perception is not their (meaning AMK) reality and they do not have to explain anything to anyone, other than those financially invested in their business. How they addressed the kit initially is irrelevant at this point.
You (again not you directly) can ask all the questions you want. AMK is in no way obligated to answer them. I honestly don't understand how some of you believe that AMK owes you daily updates on what is happening with AMK. How would you feel if someone walked into your place of business and demanded to know what goes on behind the scenes, and felt you owed them that explanation because they were a customer/client?
If some of you are barking mad over a plastic model of an airplane, perhaps you need to step away from the hobby for a bit. AMK shouldn't have to help you out if you're "barking mad", talking to a professional counselor should suffice.
The kit will get here when it gets here. It will be correct or it will have issues. It will sell well or it won't. Continuing to cry like children because you're not getting your way isn't going to change a damn thing.
Dave
Thanks Dave +1
Madcop
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If and only if you are seeing what I am, it looks like it is your first real good post !
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I do not care about how AMK is running his business , that's AMK's problem, not mine.
I do not care about the way AMK is communicating, that's AMK's problem, not mine.
I do not care about Martin's way of communicating , but I can understand it after having followed the 10% interesting content out of these 140 pages thread ( that's becoming more of a pamphlet than a sound discussion)
I do not care whether Martin had brought the last samples with him at Telford and to who he showed them or not. That's his business, not mine !
I just trust what I see and hold in my hands.
I pre ordered the kit through Indigogo knowing , by references to the other AMK products I already had, that at the end of the project I would have a quality product and I felt that AMK was deserving this kind of fund raising and the little if no risk I took.
So, I do not care about the time it takes to AMK to finish his project. ( Daddy, is Great Britain still far away ? ………. Shut up and swim !)
Do I feel betrayed by AMK ? Just guess.
Shall I buy more AMK product ? Yes of course as long as I keep interest in the subject.
Amen !
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You won't hear Martin anymore, thanks to you all, until this kit is released.
He said "If I have the parts from China, I will show them at Telford.
These pics , taken "today" are nothing more than the ones we saw before.
If you can't see that, sorry, but I really doubt about your modeller competence.
Don't loose your time, stop bashing, and go take care of whatever you want to.
Life is so short, don't spoil it with plastic !
Madcop
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8 minutes ago, Doppelgänger said:
I concur; I wish I could ask the fellas at Britmodeller to have a good look on that issue on the AMK F-14D rear flanks at Telford tomorrow, so that they'd elaborate on it.
They don't seem to be nearly as neurotic about it on their thread regarding the AMK F-14D kit as we are on here, you know. It just makes me wonder...
Normal, Britmodeller is more for people with sound mind.
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35 minutes ago, Martin @ AMK Models said:
Theres no issue with the back end.
The photographs and lines make for an optical illusion.I have posted comparison pictures on facebook. I'll be taking samples to Telford. If you're there you can see for yourself.
I don't feel the need to post endless proof to forums because the kit will speak for itself. At the ned of the day, modelers will buy it or not as the case may be.
I think that once you see the final product and the ad infinitum reviews come out then all will be answered. Life is too short to get all knotted up about a kit that you haven't seen yet.
I admit that the delay is frustrating for all not just modelers. There is a reaon for it but I am not able to share at this point. All will become clear.
Soooooooooooooooooooooo well said Martin , good shot !
Very good summary of these 132 pages.
I have already paid for it and ready to wait for it as long as it is needed !
Thanks a lot.
Madcop
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I only wish that upon release of this model, the future 300 pages of this thread will blow up to the faces of their authors and will stick there for eternity.
But I am confident that these same authors will be the first to buy the kit. Quite sure that some of them have even preordered it!
Anyway, keep on telling whatever you want , this kit is going to sell and sell…. When ? I do not care ...when the times will have come !
More that 130 pages of fun and free advertisement…
Thanks for that.
Mr SULC from Eduard , the "king" of the com, must be jealous !
As for Martin , do not forget that this man is suffering from bad health and still, dedicated to our community. All these comments surely go right to his heart !
Thanks for him.
As this thread has become more a struggle between egos, I'll leave it to them.
A big thank-you to all the serious and objective reasoning members who always saved this thread from drowning.
Madcop.
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2 hours ago, Mstor said:
If they have indeed made corrections based on feedback from forums like this one, I would think that they would want to show us the corrections and get further feedback. Are we to take their word that the correction is made and all is fine now? I think many here have tried to make concise descriptions of problems that we see in what we have been shown to date. If they have in fact addressed these issues show us and let us make further analysis. If we have been mistaken in our perceptions, then why not show us and put our minds to rest.
I have high hopes for this kit. I would be more inclined to purchase it than the Tamiya kit simply based on the level of detail they have shown us thus far. Its just that AMK has done little to engender trust among the modeling community with their missed deadlines and lack of response to our inquiries.
Hi Mstor, You may be right but ,
Just in case, how did you do back in the 90s or even later ? You had to trust them ...and only begin to moan as soon as you had opened the box. I think we have become a spoiled community !
I pre-ordered the kit in the first days , I knew what I was doing and the risk I was talking, and all what have happened here since that day won't change anything… I have to trust AMK and I still will , even if I'll have to resort to file, plastic card and filler on a spot or two… That's modelling after all ! I am just assuming the risk I took when pre-ordering.
And if I have to wait another 2 or 3 months … it does not matter to me … Even if they keep it shut….I've still l plenty of other things to do, much more important , that keeps me away of what must stay a Free Time Hobby !
Madcop
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12 hours ago, serendip said:
This is certainly an eminent release😊
Well It looks like this eminent release is accusing just a little bit of delay. Nothing to be afraid of, really !
Madcop
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Surprisingly, no more post and no more pics of this kit. It means that release should be eminent.
Please prove me right, just one pic of completed model would be enough.
Madcop
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I find this model pretty well detailed for 1/200 scale !
Do not understand all these critics !
Madcop
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Ahhhhhhhhh, blue lines now. We missed those !🤣