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  1. Any body know if Phrogger is still active?



  2. So, you don't want to hear from any Army or Marine Corps personnel with personal experience on the H-2? :D (No, I don't have any H-2 experience... just know enough about them to know the Marines had 11 UH-2B's and the Army evaluated some for gunships and along with the Navy evaluated a compound variant.)
  3. I thought maybe the Army is allowing sponsers now, much like sports venues do... and this unit is being sponsered by Kawasaki.
  4. You want 'em all? Here you go, with the years made, model # and (quantity) Vertol 1958 Vertol 107/YHC-1 (one) 1959-1960 Vertol YHC-1A (three) Boeing-Vertol 1960 Boeing-Vertol 107-II-1 Factory prototype (1) 1961-1964 Boeing-Vertol 107-II-2 (16, includes second prototype "Tab 2" - later converted to a HKP4B, and the following supplied to Kawasaki: one kitted at sub-assembly level, five regular kits and one as parts.) 1962 BV-107-?/XH-49A/CH-46B (none built, contract cancelled before first one was built, Tab 2 was painted up in USAF scheme for a short time) 1962-1966 BV-107-M/CH-46A (194) 1962-1966 BV-107-M/UH-46A (14) 1963-1964 BV-107-II-9/CH-113 Labrador Canadian Air Force (6) 1964 BV-107-II-14/HKP4A Swedish Air Force (10) 1964-1965 BV-107-II-28/CH-113A Voyageur (12) 1966 BV-107-II-15/HKP4B Swedish Navy (3, plus Tab 2's conversion in 1970) 1966-1968 BV-107-M/CH-46D (233 built, 33 converted from A's) 1966-1968 BV-107-M/UH-46D (10) 1968-1971 BV-107-M/CH-46F (174) 1970-19?? HH-46A & D (61 converted from CH/UH-46A/D) 1978-1986 CH-46E (275 converted from A, D & F models) 2006 HH-46E (3 converted from CH-46E) Kawasaki Heavy Industries 1962-1963 KV-107II-2 basic civil passenger & utility version (12 built, including 7 built from kits/parts sent from Boeing, 3 of these sold to Royal Thai Army) 1962 KV-107II-3 JMSDF Minesweeper (2) 1963 KV-107II-7 Royal Thai Army, Royal Flight VIP (1) 1964 KV-107IIA-2 Improved Passenger/utility (3) 1966 KV-107II-4 JGSDF transport version (41) 1967 KV-107II-5 JASDF SAR (15) 1971 KV-107IIA-3 JMSDF Improved Minesweeper (7) 1972 KV-107II-16/HKP4C Swedish Navy ASW/SAR multi-role (8) 1972 KV-107II-4A JGSDF VIP transport (civil windows) (1) 1972 KV-107IIA-5 JASDF Improved SAR (37) 1973 KV-107IIA-17 Long-range transport & VIP version of KV-107IIA for Tokyo Police (1) 1973 KV-107IIA-4 JGSDF Improved transport (18) 1979 KV-107IIA-SM-1 Saudi Arabian Ministry of Interior fire fighter (7) 1979 KV-107IIA-SM-2 Saudi Arabian Ministry of Interior SAR (4) 1979 KV-107IIA-SM-3 Saudi Arabian Ministry of Interior multi-purpose (2) 1979 KV-107IIA-SM-4 Saudi Arabian Ministry of Interior air ambulance (3) You could almost make a career out of building one of every variant. :D
  5. Some minor corrections Canada CH-113A Voyageur: Narrow airfoil shaped rear pylon (if by that, you mean asymmetric, with the trailing edge offset slightly to the starboard, yes) and equipped with APU (like CH-46A). More glazing on the nose, unique only to the Voyageur. Forward port side emergency exit is shorter, lower edge is up off the floor, and corners rounded (like late CH-46D/F models). Small fuel stub wings with 380 US gallon system capacity (also like CH-46A and NYA BV-107-II) without fuel jettison tubes. Entry door's lower half door with two full width steps (like H-46). CH-113 Labrador (early): Asymmetric rear pylon without APU (like BV-107 II Civil & KV-107). Lab No's 302(402) and 304(404) had aft pylon changes at certain points in the 1960's and had replacement tails like a Voyageur, but no APU installed in the compartment and the provisional hole for the APU exhaust was blanked off. Fuel sponsons instead of stub wings (900 US gallon system capacity, ~10" shorter than the sponsons of HKP4's and long range KV-107's). Lower half of entry door has four rung type steps, two forward and two aft of a fairly flat platform in the center of the door's interior. Forward port side emergency exit is taller, with lower edge at floor level, and corners are more squared like early CH-46A. CH-113 Labrador (Late ie; SARCUP & Speedline modified): All original Labs got CH-46A/CH-113A style APU tails with APU's. Voyageur conversions got the larger Kawasaki sponsons (1000 US gallon system capacity) in 1979-1980 during Speedline mod as the CDN tanks had been discontinued. These tanks have round support braces (versus the flatter "aero" design of the original Labs) with larger fairings at the fuselage attachment. Original Labs did NOT get the bigger tanks. Radome on the nose. Original Voyageurs maintained their extra glazing in the nose. External rescue hoist on swinging boom (like HH-46 & some CH-46E). Here is an excellent CH-113/113A series resource! It goes into even more details and would be helpful for making period correct versions. http://cdnsarlab.blogspot.com/ Sweden HKP-4A, 4B: Use KV-107 with large round sponsons - One exception, HKP-4B no. 64 is converted from Boeing-Vertol's #2 prototype (C/N 10) and has square windows like a civil version, with 8 on the port side and 6 on the starboard (forwardmost and aft most windows blanked out from standard civil config) and has THE CH-46D protoype aft pylon, not the asymmetric one of other HKP-4A & B models. HKP-4C: KV-107 with APU and wide pylon (like CH-46D), large round sponsons (from some KV-107 kits) USA CH-46A. More glazing than later models, small fuel sponsons, no APU, narrow pylon like KV-107, but with APU. Many A's converted to D-style aft pylons after they left the factory starting ~1968. A's have larger forward port emergency exit like Lab's (see above), these doors have a handle to open them, like the Crew Door & cockpit emergency exits (D & F models have the smaller forward port side hatch that is held in place with a rubber seal and a nylon strap & rip cord to pull the seal and open the exit - like the three emergency exit windows have).
  6. I'm not a modeller, I joined to check out helicopter pics, stories and share my tidbits to help you guys out when I can - and I must say, you guys do some AWESOME work. That being said, I would love it and be SO honored if someone did a dio on this H-34 sketch/story: http://www.hmm-364.org/1965/richardson-tj.html Why? Because of Lt Richardson and his crew's actions, my father survived what would have been almost certain death. Check out Dad's letter to Lt. Richardson here: http://www.hmm-364.org/1965/richardson-tj-ltr.html One day, a little over 3 years ago I googled my last name when I was a little bored. One of the search results had my dad's name, and even his first name is not very common, so I clicked the link and found the letter.. in my dad's own hand. Really weird to come across a letter from your father you've never seen 18 years after he's passed. What my dad doesn't mention to the good lieutenant is what he had to go through to get that ammo from the 1/4 guys. He was ambushed by two VC when he arrived at the ammo. One was armed with a sub-machine gun and the other a pistol. Dad managed to drop both of them with his .45 before they could drop him and got the ammo back to his guys. He was awarded the Silver Star for his participation in this battle. I have a hunch that particular portion of the battle had a lot to do with it.
  7. Figured I'd bump this thread with a few more pics of N6679D in its tandem wing config. Sorry, don't know who the guys are, it's an archive photo someone else gave me and they didn't know either. I'm guessing it's the flight test ground crew assigned to this project.
  8. The CH-46D/F's were only ~12-15K lbs (empty - according to the various log books I signed off), depending on if they had all their armor or not and how much weight they gained from in-service repair. Add 2400 lbs if the tanks are FULL, which they weren't and you're still well under 20K. It is possible to push one on the harder tidal beach sand, I was there. I can imagine it is easier to push a 46 than a 60, even if the weight is the same, because there's more surfaces you can push against. We did have cause to manually move them some when stacking the hanger or hanger deck for storms - when we had to squeeze them in as tight as possible, so I have participated in pushing them, too - just not for a BS reason - on the beach.
  9. LOL! Reminds me of the time I did a troop lift with a dozen Force Recon Marines. Dropped them off my CH-46 on a Camp Lejeune beach and we shut down awaiting their return from their mock search and destroy mission. When they came back, we told them the chopper wouldn't start and needed them to get behind it and push it down the beach so we could bump start it. They actually fell for it! They got us rolling about 1-2 mph and the pilot tapped the brakes at the same time the co-pilot hit the APU Start switch. The APU lit off and the Recon boys applauded themselves for the job well done... while the four of us aircrew laughed our heads off over the intercom. I still get a big grin every time I think of that! :D
  10. I found this picture today of N6679D painted up in USAF markings - with blatant Boeing Vertol logo added for advertising effect, I'm sure. Helis info on CH-46B Not sure if this is a recent addition, or if it's been hiding there all along.
  11. Here's a couple of shots of THE first Canadian CH-147F, fresh from paint.
  12. On the KLM tail (and winglet), the bulk of these show because they are removable panels & screws. On the tail cone, the join ring shows and all the button head fasteners in the station frames. Looking forward of the horizontal stab, the skin panels' butt joints and laps are barely seen.
  13. I've been involved in the building of "1/1 scale" Boeing wide bodies for 25 years. (Mostly 747 & 777, with a little 767 & 787 thrown in once in a while). Every single one made in since I've been here has had white wheel wells. All the aluminum ones are sprayed with a coating of Dinol or CorBan in the wells. Depending on how heavily the application was sprayed, it may be anywhere from barely off-white to a sand or tan color. Gear door interior colors are white on the 747 may or may not be coated, depending on customer preference. Other wide body models have white interiors if the doors are made of metal, grey or white if composite. (Example, all the 777's gear doors are composite and all grey on the interior surface - except the flying doors on the MLG, which are white.)
  14. Impressive! I agree it gets easier as the scale gets larger. Still, Pierre Scerri's 1/3 scale Ferrari 312PB impresses me more than Park or Glen... mostly because the Ferrari is fully operational and even sounds like the real thing. Just further supports what Hawkeye is saying though... http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/scerri.htm
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