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  1. Well Poop... I just picked up the HB F-111D/E, and THEN find this thread while looking for aftermarket intakes for it. Over on the weapons loads thread (linked below in my signature file), I blasted the instructions. Be very careful in what you believe you should do according to the instructions when it comes to weapons, chaff/flare, and that Pave Tack Pod (wasn't used on the E, wasn't used on the D... EVER). Glad I waited until I could afford to buy it (at $100 USD, I'd be royally pissed, but at 180RMB (including shipping), not so much).
  2. Hey all, I'm back (well, not really, I'm still working and living in the PRC, but I'm back to the forum)... This time I have the Hobby Boss F-111D/E in my possession (finally). I'd like to make a couple of suggestions... Re-read the thread if you haven't done so in a while. I've got a lot of stuff on our loadouts during the 1988-1990 (pre-Desert Storm) time frame on pg 2. I've yet to actually start the kit, but one thing I'd suggest right off for people building the F-111E models from UH... Take the weapons chart on pg 16 of the instructions and totally disregard them. If you're modeling a D model, treat everything the instructions tell you with suspicion (I can't help you better than that, as I never saw one). There's so few bits of accurate info that it's nearly complete C**P. The station numbers are completely wrong, the numbers start from the left side of the aircraft, not the right. So, on the chart, Sta. No 7 is actually Sta. No 2 (and unused), No. 6 is actually No. 3, etc. Stations 1, 2,7, & 8 are fixed pylons, and were never used during my time at UH, or in training at Lowry AFB. To my knowledge, they were never used on the E model... ever. Then again, I only worked the plane for 2 years out of its service life. While I was at UH only one aircraft had undergone the Avionics Modernization Program, and carried the new chaff and flare dispenser. I only got a chance to examine the plane a couple of times, and my biggest memory of it was the bump of the satellite receiver (ahead of the cockpit), and the aircraft was grey. I was supposed to get trained on the new chaff and flare system it had, but my papers came through with my RIF discharge, and I never got the chance to do it. If you are not modeling that aircraft (around that time frame), toss parts D13 and D14 into your spares bin and use E13 and E14 [EDIT] apparently shortly before being retired from service several more were giving the AMP package, but again UH only had the one by the beginning of ODS that I'm aware of.[/EDIT] There are 3 small rectangles engraved bottom edge of the parts where the chaff and flare trays were accessed... There were two rectangular HOLES on the real aircraft where the chaff and flares actually ejected from. Look at the image below (found on http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/f111indetailjr_2.htm) and you can see them directly below the horizontal stabilizer (in line with edge of painted/unpainted area.). As Jim Rotramel said on the http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/f111indetailjr_5.htm website: I found an image of a full Durandal load on stations 3 & 4 here: http://suryamalam.blogspot.kr/2016/02/general-dynamics-f-111-aardvark.html, also has a good shot of the SUU-21 practice munition dispenser. It probably has been said elsewhere, but the F-111F models carried the Pave Tack Pod. To my knowledge the D model didn't. Wikipedia seems to back that up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pave_Tack. While the kit ?may? be a step up from the Academy kit, the armament instructions (including the pods) are a real let down. I'll also add that I don't remember nose art while I was there. We never flew with MERs or TERs while I was there (BRU-3As were used, and were black (a very few may have been OD Green)). What the kit calls a MER is actually a BRU. So, we get a break there. The interiors of the intakes were white (glossy IINM), though several had yellowish honeycomb ?fiberglass? panels on the interior in places (kit doesn't include the interior of the intake, which will likely lead to you being able to see the interior of the model (which is a big let down). I'll need to find a seamless intake for the kit. I remember the AN/ALQ 131 (but the instructions has it listed as the AN/ALQ 119 on pg 16) loaded behind the rear landing gear, ahead of the arresting hook. I've never laid eyes on an AN/ALQ-87. If you're building an E model, most of the weapons included can be tossed into your spares box... We did use the MK.20, and MK.82s, but the rest I've never seen in my life before, with the possible exception of the GBU-10. I don't know if any of the others were ever used on the E model during Desert Storm, but since I didn't train on them, I doubt it (I was still in four days after Iraq invaded Kuwait, and was as far as I know up to date on my load training), (many of the odd weapons appear to be carried either by the F-111As/F-111Fs, or the Aussie's Cs). I get a strong feeling that the AIM-9Bs are wrong, but I really didn't futz with them much, as most of our AIM-9's were captive training missiles. I don't know what the Ds carried at all. I do know that the Fs carried laser guided bombs that the E didn't (what they did carry (beyond the range of weapons the E carried) I've got no clue except for the GBU-15 which I spotted in an image search with a F model). Don't forget to add your sway braces to your pylons on Stations 3, 4, 5, & 6. I'd recommend adding either part number WC1 or WC13 (whichever fits) for the AN/ALQ 131 location. The fuel tanks were typically on Stations 3 and 6. The pivoting pylons were attached to the underside of the wing at only one point (unlike the two holes/pins that HB has provided (3 if you factor fully swept) for alignment). There, Academy has Hobby Boss truly beat. All the wiring for the pylon was routed inside that pivot. There was a small ( but visible) gap all around that pivot point (you don't need to be scraping the underside of the wings every time you transitioned to or from high speed flight. I get the feeling that Hobby Boss has done a better job on the landing gear wells than Academy did. I do wish that it came with parts for modeling the wings swept though. When it comes to weathering the inside of the wheel wells and weapons bay, don't hold back on the grime. They were NOT clean areas of the aircraft. You'll need to create your own MAU-12 if you want to have the bay open, as the plane was always equipped with them, unless they were undergoing maintenance on the MAU-12s at that moment. Some excellent info can be found here: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/f111indetailjr_1.htm (I kept changing the number _1, _2, etc. until _9. There is no _10.htm page.
  3. May he develop a huge sensitivity to all plastics and solvents. Rashes, hives, and extreme swelling of his hands and face (but his manhood suffers the opposite effect)
  4. Dang! Those are some clean bombs... In the loadbarn they were always grimy from all the times they had been loaded and unloaded. Of course, most live munitions looked that nice... once.
  5. Nice photos Jim! Thanks! One might also note the location of the rail on STA 6, and the absence of one on STA 3 in the photo with the flat 4's
  6. Thanks! As it stands now, perhaps more people will be willing to jump in and post what they know. Peace! BTW, Collin's weapons are a Mk-20 (I loaded those in the USAF), a trio of Mk-83 "slicks"(1000lb bombs) loaded on a TER (never saw them at RAF UH, or in training, but a little research (and a question to Collin) confirmed them), a Harpoon Missile (again only by doing research (and it happens that my dad worked on them too (for McDonald Douglas))), and another trio of Mk-83 "slicks".
  7. I'd like to apologize to anyone who was offended by my original post as it appeared originally. I have hurt some people's feelings, and it wasn't my intention at all. I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I was trying to help, and thanks to my Autism (diagnosed after my service in the USAF) I still obviously lack the social skills to be able to tactfully do so without coming off as one. I was hoping to inspire people to share information with fellow modellers so they could make the most accurate model of the subject they have selected. One of the most frustrating things in modeling is to follow the instructions and produce something that you're proud of, only to have someone (like me) home in on that detail and tell you that you've messed it up. Thanks to all of our Active Duty and former service members from all branches for your service. Peace
  8. Thanks for the info guys!
  9. The Durandal may have never been flown by the F-111E, but it was an option available to them. Flat loads... forgot about those.. It's been too long. Thanks Jim
  10. Collin, I don't mean to insult anyone... What I was hoping to inspire is more people to post correct information on what was possible as a load, thus people won't be wasting time trying to model an accurate config, only to be let down because the instructions were off... (a careful look at the Academy 1/48 F-111E kit is a prime example). It's likely that Weapons troops would have a better idea of what we loaded, what we could load, and what would and wouldn't be mixed together. Not every pilot/NFO/WSO gets the chance to fly with every load combination weapons troops trained with. The vast majority of the time flight crews get to fly with practice munitions and only get to simulate the mission.
  11. IINM The Russians don't fly with G-suits like the other air forces do...
  12. I remember "uploading" and "downloading", and "weapons load", but I'm fuzzy on "loadout". I even use the term in my posts. I don't exactly remember where I'd have picked it up from. Speculating here... One possible reason why others might not remember the term is due to Branch/MOS specifics. It may be that it was a term that we Weapons/Ammo troops used in the barn, and amongst ourselves, and not something that a crew chief or other maintenance worker may have had heard often. If I had to guess, I'd bet that it came from within the Weapons/Ammo community, probably the 461's specifically... "Hey, go run a load (of bombs) out to shelter 15", or "Hey! Get that load out of here! This jet's broke" It's my belief that "loadout" refers to the various configuration of weapons that a plane would carry (Which is how I use it). So, you'd never see a loadout of MK-82 Snakeyes and a B61 nukes on the same plane at the same time. Nukes and conventional bombs weren't mixed, you were either carrying one or the other. However, it's very likely that you'd see nukes and missiles, or conventional bombs and missiles at the same time. So one possible loadout for an F-111E from UH might include two SUU-21s (on STA 3 and 6)(one carrying BDU-33s and the other carrying MK-106s), as well as BRU's on STA 4 and 5 (carrying a full load of inert (or even possibly live) Mk-82 AIR bombs), and maybe even a practice AIM-9 or two. (Remember, I served during the Cold War, not during any real fighting) Another would be like Jari said... 20 Mk-82's with full BRUs on STAs 3 and 6, and slant 4 BRUs on STAs 4 and 5 (with inboard weapons removed).
  13. I like the Pig... I used to work the E models, and someday would like to model the other variants... While I'm sure that the F model could carry the same things as the E model (except for the bay loaded bombs after getting the AN/AVQ-26 Pave Tack Pod), I have no idea of what it could handle after getting the pod. Anybody know what would be an accurate load for it? Thanks
  14. Nuts... Just before I got there apparently. Some of those really are outstanding! Thanks for posting them.
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