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  1. @BWDenver Thanks for sharing that pic - any chance you might be able to upload some more Crash Rescue (Huey) photos? I already have a decent selection thanks to Ray, but always on the look out for more ;). Additionally, do you happen to know if these particular aircraft were technically classified as HH-1D? Thanks, Robert
  2. Thanks for all the info guys, and sorry for the late reply. That chart was pretty helpful; even though I agree that definitions seem to differ from unit to unit it's nice to have something like that to reference as a general guide. It appears that the a/c that triggered me to investigate further is classified as either a 'Heavy Hog' or a 'Heavy Frog' (I'd not previously heard of a Heavy Frog, only Heavy Hog). Thanks again for taking the time to reply, much appreciated!
  3. Trying to nail down the differences between the three. Is the following info correct: A Huey gunship with an M-5 was called a "Frog"; one with the XM-3 was called a "Hog"; and one with both was called a "Heavy Hog". Does that mean that in order to classify as a Frog, the only weapons system installed would be the M-5, or are systems other than the XM-3 permissible? Would it be correct to say that any rocket configuration without the M-5 constitutes a Hog and any rocket configuration with the M-5, a Heavy Hog, or is the Hog/Heavy Hog designation dependent on specifically having an XM-3? If it is weapon system specific (XM-3 only), are other configurations (both with and without the M-5) simply referred to as gunships? As I understand it the Frog, Hog and Heavy Hog designations were informal, so maybe there is no correct answer, but as info online is all over the place, I thought I'd try my luck here. Thanks.
  4. Spotted this on Facebook the other day, some of the best Left Bank interior photo reference I've come across to date (original post, photo details and credits, linked below):
  5. It's an odd one for sure! In terms of hard to find Huey antenna info, I'd say it's right up there with the rectangular-shaped one used in Antarctica. OFF TOPIC: Other equipment which is irritatingly hard to track down is that of EH-1H/X, JUH-1H SOTAS and Left Bank (Vietnam). As is the case with our Air America antenna, there are a decent number of low/medium-res shots around (depending on the model; lots of SOTAS, virtually none for EH-1X), but very few which show good close-up detail. Plus, and particularly annoying for me personally, is the distinct lack of cockpit and cabin images.
  6. Though I originally didn't think it to be the case, I suspect that the wire may well attach to the elevator. That 'tab' is placed right in line with the wire (even the angle matches) and from the photos I have, is only present on the left hand side - quite a coincidence. It's also appears to be located at the axis of the elevator, meaning movement would be minimal. EDIT: Agree with much of what @Cubs2jets says above. Post came in as I was writing.
  7. Not 205As, check the tail rotor. Sliding door windows, tail boom and nose details also eliminate 205A, she's either a D or an H-model. My initial thoughts were D, as I've not seen an H with nose mounted FM antennas before, but then other features point towards H, plus photo comes from Ray, and he says H. As I say, it's an unusual setup (EDIT: the 'dog bowl' on the belly wasn't standard on U.S. Army aircraft either AFAIK, but was fitted to RAAF birds of the period). Sid Nanson thinks he's linked the c/n to the aircraft in the image below (his comments follow). "That's the c/n then Ray. Picture probably taken 1967, was registered XW-PFH and was in service out of Udorn by October 1967. Abandoned in Saigon 1975. Documentation gives it as a UH-1D (205D)." - Sid Nanson Checking (myself) against a list of Bell serials, 3210 is absent, however it would put her in the D category; that is to say she originally left the factory as a D-model, engine possibly upgraded since. Another comment earlier in the thread was also interesting: "We operated quite far from our bases, needed HF antennae to commo our whereabouts. Especially in Laos upcountry, had to call back to Udorn or LS20A." - Michael Banek Hope this info isn't considered too off-topic, just thought it was interesting. Be sure to view Ray's original at full resolution BTW, not just as embedded above. Do you happen to have any high res photos of the frame itself? Robert
  8. Would also be interested to know more about this antenna. Here's a photo Ray posted recently on Facebook: Pretty unusual antenna configuration overall, I assume these must have been a special order?
  9. Right, back on the subject of National Guard birds of the '60s and '70s. Since starting this topic I've located the following image on Facebook, which ties up with the NJANG aircraft pictured in the OP: The caption reads: "UH-1H 66-16161 NJARNG with a very non standard take off and on side door sign - NJ sent this aircraft to the DEARNG." I've also come across an IDARNG aircraft with similar text on the door, "IDAHO ARMY GUARD," but naturally no more images or info. Not sure as to the purpose of this removable door sign, or how non-standard it was. Am not dead set on this particular detail, was just looking for examples with something a little extra, at any rate, here are a couple more reference pics: I thought these aircraft were a pretty common sight in the U.S. and had hoped someone might have snapped a few photos, either at an airshow, or better still a of machine they worked with. Anyway - here's hoping! Cheers, Robert
  10. Yup, neither had I until recently. They are from the book "UH-1 Huey In Action" by David Doyle. The two VIP interior images (Continental Army Command) are listed as coming from the National Archives, but I've not been able to find high res versions (or otherwise) online, nor a tail number for that matter. She was based at Fort Monroe, Virginia and the photos were taken in 1971. It's quite frustrating having bits and pieces, but not the whole picture, hence the purpose of this thread in trying to locate good images of both the exterior and interior (plus serial). Obviously that's not going too well so far though... Another prime example is 69-15605 (United States European Command). Whilst there are plenty of high quality exterior images of this particular aircraft, I've failed to find any of the cabin area and/or cockpit. There were a lot of white-tops in operation, but the Continental Army Command aircraft is the most luxurious I've come across to date. I wonder whether the UH-1D tasked with presidential support (image in OP) had a similar cabin, or possibly more like the one below: Speaking of which, I'm quite surprised at the lack of VH-1N interior images, but I'll leave it there for now!
  11. Thanks for the tip, Charlie. Original post updated.
  12. Hi guys, Wondering if anyone here might have some good photo reference of Army Hueys operated in the U.S. during the 1960s and '70s (single-engine, long-body; pre-WSPS, IPS, RWR, NVG etc.). Anything along the lines of the following would be very much appreciated: National Guard (utility config. rather than medevac, some door text/artwork as in attached image preferable) Hi-vis red/white scheme (as used in Alaska) VIP (Continental Army Command, presidential support etc.) Both exterior and cockpit/cabin shots would be great if possible (of the same aircraft - even better!); tail number and/or any operational info also v. helpful. If any other examples come to mind that you feel define U.S. domestic ops of this period (as regards UH-1H/D), please share! Have uploaded some low-res images as examples. Cheers, Robert (regarding the last 2 images; as I understand it Strike Command became Readiness Command in 1972, is it likely that 12997, or a similar-looking/configured a/c, would have received the same paint scheme as in the bottom pic?)
  13. @Ken Piniak Not as far as I'm aware (in the U.S.). That said, I do have a photo of N313CF in a Coast Guard livery. I've had this image in my reference collection for sometime, but unfortunately don't know anything more. I do have other shots of her, but just this one in the Coast Guard scheme. Funnily enough, I believe I stumbled across this particular aircraft in the UK in 2005, tucked away in a hangar at Redhill Aerodrome (same reg. at least). Wonder if she was painted this way for a movie? Robert
  14. I'd like to see the pics if you have any... (particularly close-up, high quality images). Best I've come across to date is this: Original thread: Cheers, Robert
  15. Hi Charlie, Ray has some great UH-1V interior pics. Take a look here: http://s176.photobucket.com/user/ultrasauros/library/UH-1V?sort=3&page=1 Would you mind sharing your reference images for 71-20204? Good luck with the build. Cheers! (BTW - did you delete the previous thread?)
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