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check your e-mail, thanks. mario

During 1918-1938 Czechoslovak Air Force standard camo topside color was "khaki", it's said it was lighter on Avia-built airplanes, darker on all others, that includes Letov, manufacturer of S-16. Unfortunatelly I couldn't find any FS equivalents. Humbrol 159 is khaki drab, it could work, FS34017 doesn't exist by the way. Eduard is calling Gunze H80 Khaki Green for Avia B-534. I'm almost sure that S-16T were delivered to Turkey in standard camo of Czechoslovak khaki top and aluminum dope bottom. By the way there is a Czechoslovak Air Force 1918-1938 SIG on www.modelforum.cz. You can ask for m

PM sent on 1/48 Has.Ki-84. Thanks, Mario

You question is way too general to give you simple answer since you need to specify period and aircraft type/s. For VVS colors I don't recommend VVS site neither E.Pilawskii book. Your better starting point is here as it includes hobby paint mixes as well http://scalemodels.ru/wiki/%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%82 If you're interested in "Czech airplanes" it means everything after Jan 01, 1993. Everything before, till October 1918 is Czechoslovak Air Force. Here, again, you need to be specific about aircraft type and period and I might be able to help. Don't pay attention to unqualified statements that

please contact me directly if you have one you can part with mholly_27@hotmail.com I'm in NYC TIA Mario

You sound fairly apologetic, why? What should really matter, rather than your tone at that time, are the facts. 10 years after, do those facts stand or not? What corrections do you mean? Bring them on. If I were you I'd be kind of proud to have challenged "uncontested authority" whom I no longer believe-and am not alone. Your fellow countryman, Jan Vihonen, posted recently on sovierwarplanes forum convincing evidence of aluminum paint use for markings and other color samples. It supports what you had written. If you lost interest in the topic over those years it can be understood. If not foll

It's not that simple. You can only do that with Int'l Priority which overseas buyers are not willing to pay-for obvious reasons.

PM-ed back, you may wish to contact me directly mholly_27@hotmail.com TIA Mario

please contact me directly if you have one to part with. I'll consider B-25G as well. I'm in NY 10025, mholly_27@hotmail.com TIA

I just need 1 Guards emblem, 1 Red Banner emblem and inscription "Sevastopolskyi" or "Roslavskyi". Can buy or trade, whole sheet is an option. Please contact me directrly if you can help mholly_27@hotmail.com I'm in NYC. TIA

I can only say "WOW"! And typically I don't do that. Beautiful paint-job, restrained weathering, details, it looks like real thing. I'm really pleased to see JASDF subject here so well done. Prompts me to pull out something from my JASDF collecting. But need to finish couple of WWII Japanese planes, my main focus. Great job, post more JASDF a/c if possible.

Great job indeed! Panel lines a bit on heavier side to my taste. I'm so glad to see JASDF subject here, well done!

I really appreciate how you want to learn from errors. My approach as well. I do like your results a lot. What paint did you use for the underside blue? The only thing I dislike on the kit is heavily overdone ribbing on all control surfaces. I have filled those. What's next, another VVS subject? Hapy modeling.

Well we have very different motivations to visit modeling sites. You seek respectful and pleasant chat I go for information. I don't mind harsh or abrasive comments, I'm New Yorker. Too much of political correctness, has not helped anyone, we see it today in the whole society. Happy modeling.

I always strive to get to the point directly. You just don't seem to be comfortable with this way of communication. You're not alone. Way too many people on modelling sites pay more attention to how thing are said instead of WHAT is being said. Unfortunatelly, here in US, we also suffer from extreme attitudes. Until several years ago it was really "anything goes", "nobody really knows", lot of confusion. Then Pilawskii's book was published and another extreme-whatever he says it's true. WEM paints were produced based on his research which was proven wrong in several departments. Don't take me

Sorry, I should have said evidence, reference was related to another post. You said "I have seen evidence of Yak-9s in the green/black scheme, the gray scheme, and even in green/brown scheme." We can agree that exceptions existed but most of time are not sufficiently documented, like your evidence without further details like place & date of picture taken and a/c type. Posting that picture would be helpful, many can appreciate that. What I tried with my response (to you included) is to revert unfortunate notion, persisting here in the West, that pretty much "anything goes" when it comes

Nice work indeed! Real thing was actually late version (still called "long-nosed" by some), look here http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/whslogan2.html Trumpy messed it up however did a great job on the kit. I have both version, working on "early" right now. Cheers

Actually the matter it's pretty conclusive thanks to extensive research in primary source-Russia proper. Tremendeous work has been done elsewhere. It's 99.9999% certain that there was no brown/green scheme worn on the whole Yak family fighters, neither La-5, La-7 or Lagg-3 for that matter. Your reference seems to be rather outdated.

Your references are 99.99% wrong about green/brown camo for YAK-3. STANDARD camo for ALL Soviet fighters, introduced in 1943, was AMT-11/AMT-12/AMT-7 i.e. blue-gray/dk.blue-gray on the top/lt.blue bottom. Brown/green examples MIGHT have existed as field applied, particularly in early stage of GPW. Over years I came across to 1 example-wreck of an early Mig-3 recovered in 1983-but have not seen photographic proof.

I assume you're inquiring about Yak-9? Then which modification? Both standard camos were used on Yak-9 i.e. AMT-4/AMT-6/AMT-7 (green/black/light blue) and AMT-11/AMT-12/AMT-7 (blue-gray/dark blue-gray/lt.blue). Pictures will help, use google search for images and you'll get something like this http://normandieniemen.free.fr/Marcel_Lefe...sur_son_Yak.jpg here I'd say it's Yak-9T in AMT-11/12/7 camo. He must have flown different aircraft. What you should exclude from options is green/BROWN on the top on ANY of WWII Soviet fighters! HTH

Warren, I suggest you take a moment and visit this page http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/port...nce/russian.htm reference links are dead for most part but before you read the article in it's entirety let me quote the author (Kari Lummpio) "...One of the SB elevators at Vesivehmaa museum has damage hole so that the interiors of it can be examined. While the whole elevator is painted externally with silver inside it has been painted with color much like RLM02. This color is as pristine as one can be. There is no perfect FS match, 26307 is close in hue, but too light. This paint most pro

Warren, I had a chance to learn Russian and traveled there. Not for research though. Like I said I have no ambition in that department but I strive to make my models as historically accurate as possible. I just merely wanted to point to the fact that our modelling community should be more open-minded. But many cliches stubornly persist. You still read that "japanese planes were heavily chipped because of the poor quality of paint" and majority of models are built accordingly. Somehow it became another internet truth. I remember "RLM02 and WWI" debate. If I recall well was not meant to say i

There is nothing like that i.e. best one-stop source. You need to use several, compare and sometimes interpolate. I'd personally trust original research like series of articles by Vakhlamov and Orlov which are here http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_954.html Apparently EP was drawing heavily on this original work but he's too much relying on analysis of B&W pictures. Another highly recommended work is "Colors of the Falcons" published by Iliad Designs. My surprise in Matt's response comes from such a resolute and decisive tone.

Warren, I fully disagree with your statement that "Erik's book as the best one-stop source for Soviet fighter colors and the VVS site as the best one stop source for color research for other, non-fighter aircraft". On the other hand I understand too much reliance on English-only reference. I'm not a researcher so I cann't prove that VVS did use something like RLM02 but what surprises me when Matt is yelling "NO, NO, NO, don't use it!" Where is his proof?

I'm very familiar with VVS site and Mr.Pilawskii book. You mention just this one source so how do you know it's correct? I highly admire Mr.Pilawskii work but he has been proven wrong more than once. There has been a research going on elswhere, Russia proper in the first place. Btw VVS painting standards don't seem neither that extensive nor confusing. Russian sources are readily accessible on internet but some are in Russian only which may be a problem for many people.