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  1. Send me an e-mail and I can send you the THREE versions of the same color as applied to a Zero... flash...gray tungsten light: brown daylight: gray-GREEN Metamerism ... Cheers, David Aiken PearlHarborHistory AT Hotmail DOT com
  2. NOW take it outside in the sunshine to see how the metamerism reacts...
  3. Masuyama vs Toyoshima?: The question was raised: "Is that possible that BII-124 piloted by Matsuyama over Pearl Harbor and BII-124 crashed by Toyoshima are two different aircraft?" Matsuyama was training Toyoshima to be a Shotaicho...and lost his own aircraft that day. Of interest, HIRYU Zeros had ROYAL BLUE (BLUE ANGEL BLUE) stripes...and in preparation for the Indian Ocean action, SORYU received new Zeros which were painted with MEDIUM BLUE stripes. Check the differences at: Ceylon Raid HTH, David Aiken
  4. Aloha All, That I3 khaki color on D3As for "Pearl Harbor" should be limited to the Fifth CV Division (Shokaku and Zuikaku). The D3As in the first and second CV Division (Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Hiryu) were gray-green. HTH, David Aiken
  5. Aloha All, The many sensei have repeatedly stated that the Hairyokushoku (gray-green) is the Zero color. These men are those who worked with the various Japanese paint releases of that color...thus I only repeat my teachers. Read carefully the NEW data on the recently found IJN color swatches at: My link Having seen J3 (made of black and white) on the lower surface of the N1K1 in 1975, I was seeing what I expected to see on the Zero (with my meager 1975 era knowledge). When I viewed the samples of the Zero and RUFE...I was taken aback by the gray-GREEN of the rubbed samples (to get rid of a
  6. Aloha TimC, One of my sensei, Kenji Miyazaki, sent the nice detail photo of the Imperial War Museum Nakajima A6M5 showing the GRAY lower surface. This is posted at: http://japaneseaircraft.multiply.com/photos/album/2/Color-samples#photo=60 Sensei K Miyazaki and H. Fujii have teamed up in a Zero detail study that continues to open eyes in M*A*R*U magazine. One item, with which I helped, was to confirm that the RUFE continued to have the Zero 21 wingfold... Oh, no aircraft company "owned" a color. Read more about IJN color at: http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~cocoro/subw117-1.htm http://www5d.
  7. Literally "Hairyokushoku" means "gray-green". Note where this color is cited in the IJN "family" of colors: The Japanese Navy color terms used in WWII are: A - Kasshoku (browns) B - Aka iro (reds) C - Ki iro (yellows) D - Midori iro (greens) E - Ao iro (blues) F - Ai iro (indigos) G - Sumire iro (violets) H - Cha iro (browns) I - Tsuchi iro (earth, mud) J - Hai iro (grays) K - Kaiseishoku(gray-blues) L - Nezumi iro (grays, "Rats-color") M - Hairyokushoku (gray-green) N - Azuki iro (browns, refers to a brown bean) O - Shiro iro (whites) P - Gin iro (silvers) Q - Kuro iro (bl
  8. Yes, Gato San, More gray rather than orange....my eyes have rested and am in peace! Thank you! Cheers, David
  9. Ahhh, so! Gato san, Perhaps a photo under natural light would help in the understanding. Send me a scan... Thank you so much! Cheers, David Aiken PearlHarborHistory AT Hotmail dot com
  10. Aloha All, For the color confused: Send an e-mail address to PearlHarborHistory AT Hotmail DOT Com for a scan of a Mitsubishi and a Nakajima sample. Cheers, David Aiken
  11. Hi John, Mitsubishi had a "flight restricted" serial block with the dangled aileron balance...not Nakajima...and that external balance block was replaced on the production line just before Pearl Harbor, BEFORE Nakajima started production. The Zuikaku Zeros began getting non-dangles in Feb 1942; Soryu got some new Zeros in late March 1942. The Nakajima spinner is LOOOONGER that the Mitsubishi spinner. HTH, David
  12. Hi John, The R. Watanabe photo is a belly landed plane...the rear is somewhat higher, thus the "overall green". The drop tank *may* be artistic license? Cheers, David Aiken
  13. Hi John, The 261st Kokutai (Ku) had several garishly-marked target tow A6M2bs. One of these had an over all dark green scheme. SWEET issued a 1/144 kit in that paint scheme: http://japaneseaircraft.multiply.com/photos/album/46/Sweet_Zero_144_scale_model#photo=7 See what is "out there" in 1/48th...I am unsure. Cheers, David Aiken
  14. Aloha Gato, What color of orange did you use for the overall scheme? Curious... Cheers, David
  15. Ohayo gozaimasu Gato San, The Zero 21 "V-107" was noted in the log of Saburo Sakai for early combat in the Philippines. At that time he flew with the TAINAN KOKUTAI Headquarters Buntai, thus the blue diagonal stripe. From Dec 1941 to Late March 1942 the tail codes were white with red piping. The diagonal stripe colors were like the Luftwaffe Staffel colors: White = First Buntai Red = Second Buntai Yellow = Third Buntai Blue = HQ Oh, with the move by ship to Rabaul in late March, the newer Zeros acquired had the same diagonal stripe system, but the tail codes were black. Uniquely the co
  16. Aloha Mario Soul, The "Hai Iro" (Gray color) on the undersurface of the Imperial War Museum's Nakajima A6M5 matches with the "Hai Iro" (Gray Color) on the undersurface of the Nimitz Museum's N1K1 and is GRAY. It is made from a black and a white. There is no GREEN within that paint. HOWEVER, the Hairyokushoku[(literally "gray-GREEN") used on the ZERO has a major GREEN component for which the color name origiinates. There is no GREEN in the "Hai Iro" (Gray Color) swatches yet the Mitsubishi A6M1 to A6M3 model 22 and Nakajima A6M2 and A6M2-N has that GREEN in daylight conditions...for which t
  17. The many sensei have repeatedly stated that the Hairyokushoku (literally "gray-green") is the Zero color for A6M1 to A6M3 model 22 (and the Nakajima A6M2 and A6M2-N production)....and I continue to hold the course. Admittedly, I once questioned these Japanese sensei/teachers...yet the insistance of Hairyokushoku gray-green continues. It's rather irresponsible for a former student to continue spreading unconfirmed information and consequently maintain confusion within modeling community, isn't it?
  18. Aloha All, Some confusion about Japanesse color exists. There is NO "Mitsubishi xxx (name your color)", "Nakajima xxx", "Aichi xxx"...just like there is NO "Lockheed Olive Drab" or "Northrop Olive Drab" or "Boeing Olive Drab". Check the Japanese swatch book for the actual terms and the coloration: Swatch book and its history By Ryoichi Watanabe The Japanese Navy color terms used in WWII are: A - Kasshoku (browns) B - Aka iro (reds) C - Ki iro (yellows) D - Midori iro (greens) E - Ao iro (blues) F - Ai iro (indigos) G - Sumire iro (violets) H - Cha iro (browns) I - Tsuchi
  19. "Love Died In Pearl Harbor" TBS-TV (the Turner CNN News Network in Japan) aired "Love Died In Pearl Harbor", a short version on Dec 7-8, 2010; the one hour longer version (alas only the KANTO region of Japan) aired on 12 Dec 2010. The short 9 minute broadcast is on Utube at: This program details the visit of Miss M. Nakano, the fiancee' of "Yoshio Shimizu", radioman/gunner and aircraft commander of HIRYU D3A VAL coded BII-214 serial 3186. The plane was hit during its dive on USS Maryland.
  20. Welch or Welsh? Aside from changing from Welsh to Welch and back to Welsh in the text, the author says that George Welch is said to have '...claimed one victory and one damaged...' on his first sortie...and then on the second sortie, "Welsh shot down two Vals and one Zero..." Actually Welch claimed both planes he shot at in his first sortie...and only two planes in the second sortie. All the planes Welch attacked, he described as "light bomber, retractible landing gear, rear gunner". For extra details from the Japanese Kodochoshos, see: "Ghosts of Pearl Harbor", FLIGHT JOURNAL, June 2007...
  21. Aloha Jennings, Thank you for the promising review. The promise seemed quite well and appreciated. Cover: It was sad that the title reflected a "Sleeping Giant" MOVIE quote for which Admiral Yamamoto did NOT say: http://www.pearlharborattacked.com/cgi-bin...ct=ST;f=16;t=18 page 2: Caption to "Title Page Photograph": The destruction of the USS Arizona is suggested as "....possibly dropped by a Kate, BI-318, from the aircraft carrier SORYU..." This hypothesis is a LONG proved myth. To repeat the facts...this myth started in the volume "Tora! Tora! Tora!" by Gordon Prange (Tokyo: Readers Di
  22. Flavio Silvestri sent me an e-mail about this topic...his e-mail address kicked back as 'bad'. Got a good address for him? TIA David
  23. My e-mails with him show he is dedicated and is quite open with his sources.
  24. Keishiro Nagao is the owner of LIFE-LIKE DECALS
  25. Two-Tone Zero 11 and 21 Mystery solved: http://japaneseaircraft.multiply.com/photo...del_11_in_China
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