Graham T Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I wanted to sling the Storm Shadows from the Revell Typhoon under the belly pylons of my 1/48 Italeri GR4A, however, the fit is not good as the tail fins overlap one another. From looking at photos, it doesn't appear that these are slung in a staggered configuration (ie, one further forward than the other) so I assume it's just a "scale" problem caused by the size of the Revell missile or the size/position of the kit pylons. Can anyone say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Will2K65 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I wanted to sling the Storm Shadows from the Revell Typhoon under the belly pylons of my 1/48 Italeri GR4A, however, the fit is not good as the tail fins overlap one another. From looking at photos, it doesn't appear that these are slung in a staggered configuration (ie, one further forward than the other) so I assume it's just a "scale" problem caused by the size of the Revell missile or the size/position of the kit pylons. Can anyone say? I once had a similar problem putting two SCALP EGs (basically a Froggy Storm Shadow) from the Revell 1/48 Rafale onto a Tonka - to be honest I just cheated a little for the sake of it and moved the pylons apart a bit so the fins were almost (but not quite) touching. I don't know whether the missiles are wrong, or the pylons to close together, I don't really know. There seems to be relatively few pictures around of the Tonka with the storm shadow as well, never mind any showing the rear of both missiles clearly enough to check the fin separation so actually finding out whether the kits wrong or the missiles are wrong is tricky without asking someone 'in the know' - usually a question like this is up Spikes street but I haven't seen him post for a while. Sorry I can't be of more help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSV1000R Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Graham, It looks as though it is a scale miscalculation somewhere (Size of fuselage, pylon spacing, size of missile, fin "width" etc). Have a look at the picture below: http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpaper/...ogr_08_1280.jpg Tight fit! Cheers, ED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vliegenier Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 In reality it fits - guess you got some sanding and trying out to do . There's also a pretty nice pic of it in the Telic book from Model Alliance . :P Stef Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bomb'ed Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 The Stormshadow's aren't staggered. They both fit on the centre stn on each shoulder pylon ( stn 7 and 8). The gap between the two inboard horizontal control surfaces is about 1.5", so it's a scale problem, on the real thing a dam tight fit and finger biter!!!! Cheers Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ReccePhreak Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Is the Italeri 1/48 Tornado GR4A OOP, or are you converting it from another version? I want to make a GR4A, but don't want to shell out my life savings for the Flightpath conversion set. Larry Engesath Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shion Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 (edited) I once had a similar problem putting two SCALP EGs (basically a Froggy Storm Shadow) from the Revell 1/48 Rafale onto a Tonka - to be honest I just cheated a little for the sake of it and moved the pylons apart a bit so the fins were almost (but not quite) touching.I don't know whether the missiles are wrong, or the pylons to close together, I don't really know. There seems to be relatively few pictures around of the Tonka with the storm shadow as well, never mind any showing the rear of both missiles clearly enough to check the fin separation :D so actually finding out whether the kits wrong or the missiles are wrong is tricky without asking someone 'in the know' - usually a question like this is up Spikes street but I haven't seen him post for a while. Sorry I can't be of more help! The 1/48 revell rafale has Apache, no Storm shadow/Scalp. Mainly, fins are different. (shorter for the second) Edited October 25, 2006 by shion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham T Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Is the Italeri 1/48 Tornado GR4A OOP, or are you converting it from another version? I want to make a GR4A, but don't want to shell out my life savings for the Flightpath conversion set.Larry Engesath No problem, especially if you can get hold of an Airfix GR4/4A (cheap off ebay). That kit includes a "representation" of the linescan pod you'll need, plus decals to represent the sensor windows of the GR4A. Fill the kit cannon ports & presto, an inexpensive GR4A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham T Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 The Stormshadow's aren't staggered. They both fit on the centre stn on each shoulder pylon ( stn 7 and 8). The gap between the two inboard horizontal control surfaces is about 1.5", so it's a scale problem, on the real thing a dam tight fit and finger biter!!!! :wacko: Cheers Pete Thanks Pete....judging by your tag & Avatar, I assume this comes from the horses mouth! I'm ashamed to admit that I trimmed the fins - not perfect but better!! Pics will follow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longmc Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 No problem, especially if you can get hold of an Airfix GR4/4A (cheap off ebay). That kit includes a "representation" of the linescan pod you'll need, plus decals to represent the sensor windows of the GR4A. Fill the kit cannon ports & presto, an inexpensive GR4A. Airwaves makes a nice conversion with the linescan pod and new PE instruments. The italeri ECR boxing already has the gun port faired over as well and, at least around here, is easily to come by. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bomb'ed Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Thanks Pete....judging by your tag & Avatar, I assume this comes from the horses mouth! I'm ashamed to admit that I trimmed the fins - not perfect but better!! Pics will follow. Graham, you could say that, mind the comparison to a horse!!! As they say "plumber" 23 years man and boy. I used to work at Lossie in the Weapon training cell, so horse it is!!, currently back in the Harrier fold...far far to many fish heads!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie T-Y Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 On the subject of Tornado Ordnance, how many LBG (included in the 1/72 Revell Tornado) can they hold under the fuselage? The kit has 2, but i have 2 from the same kit i built a long time ago, so i was wondering if 4 is possible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard E Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 On the subject of Tornado Ordnance, how many LBG (included in the 1/72 Revell Tornado) can they hold under the fuselage? The kit has 2, but i have 2 from the same kit i built a long time ago, so i was wondering if 4 is possible? I think the maximim load is three - one on each shoulder pylon and a third on the centreline pylon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Will2K65 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yep its maximum load of laser guided bombs is either 3 1000lb weapons (Paveway II or Enhanced Paveway II), or a pair of 2000lb Paveway III bombs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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