jaydar Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I am soon starting my Airfix Buccaneer. I don't have much in the way of reference material yet. Did the Bucs leave flaps dropped when parked? Thanks, joe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 It was not uncommon to see Buccs parked with dropped flaps, especially when the wings were folded. Pictures exist of a/c with flaps up and down, so I suspect it is the usual drop off in hydraulic pressure. Although the Bucc had drooping ailerons for landing, I have never seen these in the 'drooped' position when the a/c are parked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 This is a good site for Buccaneer reference. http://www.blackburn-buccaneer.co.uk/Contents.html Also I dropped the flaps on my Bucc and it requires hacking a chunk out of the fuselage then filling.my advice is leave it be. Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary West Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 A quick search through Airliners.net shows a good mixture of both up and down in both Wings folded and level configurations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wadeocu Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 It really depends on the era and setting you want to depict. For the RAF, more often than not they were parked with flaps down and airbrake open to reduce hydraulic loading as seen here on a 12 Sqn. Bucc in 1987: www.scalemodelworld.net/yauj2m FAA Buccaneers were commonly parked with the flaps up and wings folded as seen here on a 809 NAS Bucc in 1978: www.scalemodelworld.net/yebl7u My photo collection indicates that it was more common to see the FAA Buccs with flaps up but this is not an absolute rule with FAA Buccs or RAF Buccs. Here is an RAF Bucc parked with everything closed up: www.scalemodelworld.net/w5gxv and an FAA example with flaps down but airbrake closed: www.scalemodelworld.net/tvhrc These last two shots are from air shows and, therefore, not exactly representative of operational appearance. You can get away with going either way, but for a late RAF Bucc, down is a bit more likely of a scenario for something parked on the ramp. I have done it both ways. The Paragon bits are very helpful for this task. The modification is a bit of a pain though as you do have to replace part of the fuselage. What era/scheme are you planning? Feel free to PM me for any assistance; this one is my favorite subject and I have a good bit of reference material and am happy to share. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I remember seeing a Bucc start up on departures day at RAF Fairford a few years back. The a/c had been parked up in the static lineup - and there had been a torrential downpour on the Sunday. The pilot started up the Speys, then folded the wings. What seemed like gallons of water fell from the wing fold area - to be followed by steam as the BLC system was engaged. Like some old labrador dog shaking off the water from its coat. It made quite a site....... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaydar Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Thanks to all for the information and references. One last question. Did the flaps have to be down to raise the wings? I am planning on raising the wings. thanks, joe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaydar Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 What era/scheme are you planning? Feel free to PM me for any assistance; this one is my favorite subject and I have a good bit of reference material and am happy to share. I am sorry I missed this question. I am doing an RAF bird from Desert Storm. Regards, joe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wadeocu Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 By the time of Granby, Buccs were more often than not seen parked with flaps down, but no it did not have to be so. Note the 809 NAS picture in the last post - typical for Buccs in the 60s and early 70s and, therefore, FAA Buccs. Be sure and see this page; lots of Granby Buccs: http://www.dstorm.eu/pages/en/gb/bucc.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spike7451 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 It was quite common for the bomb bay to be opened on taxing after landing.I remember while Kinloss was getting a new runway about 88ish, we(the entire Nimrod fleet,us plumbers & NLS) were detatched to Lossiemouth a Bucc was taxing & opened the bomb bay spewing lts of jet fuel all over Lossies runway as he was returning with a fuel leak! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peter burns Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 What era/scheme are you planning? Feel free to PM me for any assistance; this one is my favorite subject and I have a good bit of reference material and am happy to share. Do you happen to have some 4 view drawings of the Red Flag scheme? I'm in the process of building one and I have some questions about the pattern...particularly the bottom view. TIA. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wadeocu Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Do you happen to have some 4 view drawings of the Red Flag scheme? I'm in the process of building one and I have some questions about the pattern...particularly the bottom view.TIA. Jeff Hi Jeff, I have some pretty good photos from all sides of XV352. I have a few of the other three too. PM me for details. I have a feeling that your question likely has something to do with the demarcation on the bottom between the desert camo and the gray; it came to a point at the arrestor hook. This is incorrectly portrayed on many color profiles. Cheers - Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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