GINge! Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I found this profile on the web, and decided it would be a fun one to do some what-if schemes on & to practice some new found PS tricks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 The lines were pretty heavy, so I traced over using a finer brush. I also decided to alter the front end to have the smaller lower window, an some optical pod (?) and a refuelling boom: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Here it is with some basic colour blocking. My 'technique' for this is to just fill it in sloppy with a brush, and then use a lasso tool to delete the colour that has strayed outside the lines. There's got to be a better way? Using a mask maybe? Or a Path? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Here is a 100% view of the size I am working in. Lesson learned - the rivet detail is not visible once the picture has been reduced for viewing on a PC screen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 (edited) hmm, some of those lines are a bit wonky! I really shouldn't be doing this right before bedtime! Edited January 10, 2007 by GINge! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I think it's looking good! Can't wait to see how it'll look finished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neu Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Keep us updated, looks promising! :D Greetings, neu :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sentinel Chicken Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Here is a 100% view of the size I am working in. Lesson learned - the rivet detail is not visible once the picture has been reduced for viewing on a PC screen. Explicitly, no, the rivet detail won't be seen when viewed at most computer screen sizes, but there will be the impression of a smaller detail there that will catch the eye even unconsciously. You'll always try and walk the line between getting those details that add to the overall gestalt of the illustration versus adding so much small detail you get the illustrator's version of "Mission Creep"! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 adding so much small detail you get the illustrator's version of "Mission Creep"! I think of it as "Target Fixation . Hey GINge, are you using Photoshop? Why don't you use the Fill tool to do the coloring? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Heya, yep, I am using PS. When I use the fill tool, it will just "fill" the whole canvas, unless I make a lasso selection. Is that how you do it? Ie, make the selection first and then fill? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Inspired by Neu's recent S-3 Viking post, especially the canopy reflections, I decided to detail up some of the glass bits. The idea is to convey a bit of sky, some earth, and a highlight (done with the airbrush and a lens render) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 GINge, When you're using the fill tool, make sure that you have the layer with the lines selected. As long as the lines are continuous, with absolutely no breaks, you should be able to fill in the various parts of the airframe. I've had the filling of the whole canvas happen a few times and it was usually because I hadn't checked to see which layer was active. Thank God for "Undo" . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Yeah, undo is my best friend! Pity my Iwata didn't come with that feature! Here's the Cormorant I am basing it on: And some markings for tonight: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 An interesting subject, and looking good too! :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) cheers guys! Got a bit of insomnia tonight, so I hurried up & shaded some. Pure speculation, but they are in a layer , so I can retouch. Still very much a WIP: Edited January 15, 2007 by GINge! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 That green is super nice, like the SAR as well of course, (being a former medic and all) I would suggest changing the serial number from 122XXX to 157XXX, 151, 152 something like that. I think 122 was used on something but without my Patrick Martin CAF bible I can't remember what. Only other thing I would change is the position of the CF roundel. It works on the green one but on the SAR I think a little higher up for some reason. Perhaps bi-secting the lightling bolt directly under the "Canada". What you have going there is looking mighty fine, and actually possible. :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I looked it up, 122XXX was reserved for the Neptune, but as the fleet was retired in 1968 the numbers were not actually painted on the airframe. Still think your schems are looking mighty fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I like this one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kitnut617 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Yes the serials need to be later than the Cormorants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 haha, um, yeah, you guys know this is a Whif, right? ;-) I just figured the first 3 of the serial were the type identfier? As in CV-122 Osprey, CF-188 Hornet. However, its no biggie to change them to anything as they are still in layer format. That's a good idea to put the roundel on the cheat line. Kinda like the old 707's had. I always thought the new Canada markings (esp on the Cormorant) looks a bit hap hazard. I mean, I'm proud to be Canadian, but do we really need 4 maple leafs on each side of the airframe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 More whif fun, this time to try paint chips, and a bit of engine staining. 408 Sqn, Kandahar Air Field, Op ATHENA, 2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Uber cool!!!!! (pssssttttt Mr whiffer :P ) 161XXX is reserved for unmanned aircraft like that Specfor thingie they have in Afganistan. That desert one is REALLY believable. I like!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 D'oh! Forgot Sperwer went to the air force! Hmm, I'll have to look at my Pat Martin book now ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GINge! Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 what with it being -30 here in Edmonton, I reckon a bit of a wintery scheme would be appropriate: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Bratton Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Ginge, I just have to say your what-if's (the Osprey and the A-4) look great. I like that you base them on the actual CF schemes, some of the Canadian what if stuff out there looks so wild you know it would never fly (so to speak). I know they're not real but they look plausible. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work. Cheers, Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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