from the cockpit 1991-not a lot of room in there

[Snowbird3a]

[Aggressor Supporter]

Nice in the cockpit photos. I take it you were a Snowbird pilot back then?

[Rick in Ontario]

Snowbird Pilots wear a Red flight suit. Techs wear blue suit.

My guess he is a Airframe tech

In 1991 the Pilot of Snowbird 3 was Capt Marc Robert.

Just a crazy Canuck with an answer. :D

Edited January 10, 2007 by Rick in Ontario

[Aggressor Supporter]

Snowbird Pilots wear a Red flight suit. Techs wear blue suit.

My guess he is a Airframe tech

In 1991 the Pilot of Snowbird 3 was Capt Marc Robert.

Just a crazy Canuck with an answer. :D

I see. Thanks for the information Rick.

[RotorheadTX]

Nice NOMEX T-shirt!! :D

[Snowbird3a]

Nice NOMEX T-shirt!! :D

Yes, thats Marc stripped down to T-shirt, as the Tutor air-con was not that great at low level. Part of our strap-in procedure during a show was to fold the flight suit behind the pilot and in front of the 'chute so after the show he can quickly don it and emerge from the cockpit all dressed up

That pic was taken during a cross-country and must have been a low level VFR trip that day

Tony,Comox, BC

[Snowbird3a]

Thanks, here is shot of the infamous 'Red Smoke ' of 1990. An Airfarame Tech's worst nightmare. Impossible to keep the plane clean and it stayed in clothing for years. Picture taken at dusk from #5 flown by John Low(who is now head of the Comox Airforce Museum). Aircraft 114115 now sits at Comox in the musem's airpark next to the Argus.

[Rick in Ontario]

Tony Would you have all the 114 numbers for each snowbird that yr.

I have shots from London that year but no numbers.

If you do would like to get them.

Rick

[Sean Bratton]

Just like flying with the airlines - carry ons in the overhead bins, please.

Nice pics, Tony. Thanks for posting them.

Cheers,

Sean

[Snowbird3a]

Tony Would you have all the 114 numbers for each snowbird that yr.

I have shots from London that year but no numbers.

If you do would like to get them.

Rick

Rick,Keep in mind that spare aircraft were used for sometimes a 3-4 week period if ones machine was in maintenance and spares could have been used during a show or a photo flight;

#1-100

#2-041

#3-037

#4-108

#5-080

#6-115

#7-052

#8-164

#9-046

#10-023

#11-049-fuel tanks and only one seat

spares were-075,011,055, and 084-fuel tanks

Tony

[Rick in Ontario]

Tony thanks for the info will add it to my data. :)

A quick ? what do you mean by fuel tanks for 049 and 084.

Rick

[Snowbird3a]

Tony thanks for the info will add it to my data.

A quick ? what do you mean by fuel tanks for 049 and 084.

Rick

Rick that means that the airplane had external fuel tanks on instead of the diesel smoke tanks. Permitted longer cross-country legs than a non-equipped bird. Only 2 on sqn strength at the time. They are longer than the smoke tanks and had horizontal fins at the rear. The pylons were the same though.

On at least one occasion, a tanker had to fly in the show, in the #4 or #5 position due to the lack of smoke capability

All Tutors were plumbed for external fuel tanks and a certain percentage were equipped with tanks and on the line at the 'Big 2' in Moose Jaw. The smoke piping was installed at Northwest Industries in Edmonton and only specific to the 13 planes on sqn strength.

Here is a pic of a 13 plane formation-coming home from Abbotsford '91. It is not PhotoShop, See if you can pick out the "tankers"

[Rick in Ontario]

Tony

Still trying to find the tankers in that picture. :D

Here are some pics of some of the old Snowbird tudors at Base Borden I took July 2006

Rick

[Aggressor Supporter]

Here are some pics of some of the old Snowbird tudors at Base Borden I took July 2006

Rick

Whoa.....what happened to it? Looked like something bit half of the plane off.

[Snowbird3a]

Tony

Still trying to find the tankers in that picture.

Rick, look at the rear 4-plane and the center two aircraft there. They are the 'tankers' and

you can just make out the rear fins on the tanks. During a show you may never tell the difference except for the lack of smoke.

BelcherBits 1/48 scale resin kit I did represents the Tanker from 1989.

[Rick in Ontario]

Here is a wingless tudor that was in a hanger last july.

All it has is a Capt Ken Carr on the canopy.

Tony would you change the # of the a/c for that show or would they go up with there regular #

Edited January 13, 2007 by Rick in Ontario

[phantom]

Neat Rick, I have those same photos from that day in Borden. Prob even saw you.

[Snowbird3a]

Here is a wingless tudor that was in a hanger last july.

All it has is a Capt Ken Carr on the canopy.

Tony would you change the # of the a/c for that show or would they go up with there regular #

If is was during the start-up for a show, no numbers got changed. Pilots just quickly swapped airplanes. But I remember changing rudders with the spare once because of a photoflight scheduled that day. This postcard with the team in echelon right over the mountains was the result of that flight.

It was easy enough to renumber the airplanes and when we received a spare or other airplane on the road We had the stencils and black spray paint to carry it out. A little MEK and the numbers come off. That day it was easy enough to swap rudders.