jrallman Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Hi! Besides the different cowls, are there any other visible differences between the F6F-3 and the F6F-5? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Ghost 531 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 the -3 has small windows aft of the canopy, all but the very first -5s don't Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Cool, the Hase kit has those included so no problems there either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck1945 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 hellcate -> ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragonlance Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Besides the cowl, the second biggest difference is the windscreen - rounded with internal armor on -3, flat with integral armor on -5. The third certain difference are the aileron trim tabs - on a -3 left wing aileron there is a fixed tab and an adjustable one on the right wing, the -5 has both fixed and adjustable tabs on both ailerons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rich Mathsen Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 One minor thing is the radio mast; very early -3's had a canted mast, later birds were pretty much straight up and down. Also, very early -3's had fairings over the gun muzzles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 hellcate -> ??? yeah yeah, i know. i keep having typos because my left index finger has a somewhat bulky bandage on it from cutting part of the tip off. no, not a modeling accident, though i have had plenty of those. this one was from cutting the skin off an apple for my 3 yr old, with SWMBO wagging her tongue about something unimportant, and I was distracted and, slip, there goes part of the finger tip. kinda sucks. Trim tabs should be easy to deal with, a little filler and some sanding. The windscreen is a bit different, but if I get a vac canopy, that should take care of that difference right? I don't have a -3 windscreen to look at, but in the color profile of the hellcat that I want to do, I don't see any difference between the -3 and the -5 windscreen. any pics of the different windscreens? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 For me the easiest way to distinguish in a hurry is the windscreen...because of the design requirement dragonlance described, it meant the framing at the top is totally different. One of VF-17's very few -3's was a late one that had no cowl bumps, so that's always a possibility just to throw you for another loop.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-bone Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 ...with SWMBO wagging her tongue about something unimportant, and I was distracted and, slip, there goes part of the finger tip. Obviously she wasn't looking over shoulder when above was typed and/or she doesn't frequent this site like some better halves! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Okay, windscreens...here are some right from the ARC gallery. First up is a -3, where the up-down framing in front of it goes about 3/4 of the way up, then hits a horizontal frame, above which is solid clear. http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal6...6F_Chang/12.jpg http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal6...6F_Chang/19.jpg Now a -5, (scroll down to the large pic before the two smaller pics at the bottom) where the up-down framing goes all the way to the top; gives the illusion of it being taller. http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5...sen/gal4977.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Andrew, thanks for those pics, the difference is much easier to see from that angle. I took a look at squadron, and the vac form canopy that they have is listed as a 3/5. Well now, clearly it cant be both! the canopies that they have listed for the old Otaki kits both look like -3 windscreens, even the one listed as a -5. so now im kind of in a pickle here, unless someone has a Hase -3 they would be willing trade for a Hase -5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) What scale? I never used my -3 windscreens from the 1/72 Academy ones I built, which I *think* should be close to the Hase.... Edited February 21, 2007 by Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 real scale here, all 1/48! I kid, i kid! but thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Bummer...even my hobby isn't real, then... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 shame too because the one -5 that i would be parting with is right up your alley, its the Jolly Rogers boxing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Nice thought! Although I've already done my VF-17 -5, and the -3, and *may* end up doing one of their -5P's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 i have two hase -5 kits, one the Jolly Rogers, the other a -5N, which is the one I want to do as a -3N. I have a set of lone star wingfolds on the way for the -5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I'm not familiar with the 1/48 Hellcats...does the -5N come with any parts for a 3? Such as the extra windows behind the 'pit, cowl bulges, anything? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
P47ACE503 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I built my several -3's from the Otaki kit. It is a good kit and IMHO has the proper winscreen. I built all my -5's from the Hasagawa kits with their proper -5 screen. Ilike the 1/48th, Otaki kits, not too shabby. Also the Otaki screen is one piece, no cutting out windows and looks good when completed, IMHO. Just a thought. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck1945 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 If Hasegawa's kit has the rear windows, this may solve the rest of the canopy problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Yeah, I have the 1/72 version of the squadron Hellcat canopies...can't remember, but I *think* it may come with both windscreens, but don't quote me on that.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Okay, I'm home now, and it does at least have the -3 windscreen. :o But like I said, that's the 1/72 version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Wise Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Now a -5, (scroll down to the large pic before the two smaller pics at the bottom) where the up-down framing goes all the way to the top; gives the illusion of it being taller.http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5...sen/gal4977.htm HEY...!!! That's one clean looking F6F-5 Angel. A very nice build! I don't know why, but I'm loving that thing!!! :) Randy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 It IS a nice one, ain't it? :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 (edited) I haven't looked in the regular Hase -5 kit, but the -5N kit does have the small rear windows included since one of the kit marking options is for an early -5N that still had the windows. Its just the windscreen that I need. Maybe I will give Squadron a call and see if someone can tell me whether their canopy set has both the -3 and -5 windscreen. If not, I will just get the -3 for the Otaki kit and make it fit. Edit: Just called Squadron and they confirmed that the 1/48 squadron canopy also has both the -3 and the -5 windscreen. Thanks guys! Edited February 22, 2007 by jrallman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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