Spongebob Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Pretty good...a couple of future tanker pilots in here :lol: Click Here Spongebob Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Pretty good...a couple of future tanker pilots in here :lol: Click Here Spongebob "I'm loosing it!" "Not yet, not yet, it's only 2 G's" :lol: -Karl (whose resting tolerance in the 'fuge at Lemoore was 5.6) Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 (edited) "I'm losing it!" He was my favorite. A couple of the women didn't even look like it affected them, particularly that first one. Edited March 4, 2007 by David Walker Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 "Want some coffee?" "Yeah that's a great idea" Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Good Stuff ... I've heard studies indicate women actually can handle High Gs better than men naturally, they think because the heart and brain are closer together in women ... Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Good Stuff ... I've heard studies indicate women actually can handle High Gs better than men naturally, they think because the heart and brain are closer together in women ... Gregg "on average" that's true - there are lots of things that factor in to G tolerance though - hydration, blood pressure, conditioning (generally muscular conditioning though - as you find endurance-style athletes sometimes have lower G tolerance, due in large part to typically lower blood pressure), etc. Link to post Share on other sites
TomcatFanatic123 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 "I think I'm gonna vomit!" That was priceless :lol:. I would give anything to be able to try that if I didn't have this damn heart problem :lol: (I would be willing to take the risk, but I don't think the military would want to). Link to post Share on other sites
Fouga23 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 (edited) Would love to try that thing ones :-) Most I've done in a plane was 6 and I think it turned black before my eyes for a second or two :-) Done 4.5 a month or two ago and that was more enjoyable :-) I always seem to have more problems with negative (especially with the stomach :s, never puked though :) ) Edited March 4, 2007 by Fouga23 Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I would give anything to be able to try that if I didn't have this damn heart problem :D (I would be willing to take the risk, but I don't think the military would want to). Watch what you wish for, you may get it. It was by far the most miserable thing I've done in my time in the military. The Physiological Empire in the USAF has tried to turn it into a recurring event (every three years or so), fortunately saner heads have prevailed. Regards, Murph Link to post Share on other sites
svaz Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 "Put your head up." "It is up" "Put your head up." "Oh .. (smile)" Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 "Want some coffee?""Yeah that's a great idea" Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Kethan Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 "Put your head up.""It is up" "Put your head up." "Oh .. (smile)" That guy was in the Planetarium.. :lol: Chris Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Ray Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 "I'm losing it!" He was my favorite. A couple of the women didn't even look like it affected them, particularly that first one. That first chick was also cute Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Watch what you wish for, you may get it. It was by far the most miserable thing I've done in my time in the military. The Physiological Empire in the USAF has tried to turn it into a recurring event (every three years or so), fortunately saner heads have prevailed.Regards, Murph Thanks to some of the people the navy saw fit to promote, I'd rank both the centrifuge and even the captivity phase of survival school ahead of some of my former "esteemed leaders' " AOMs. Not kidding. That was my first thought in my cell - "well, could be worse. I could be listening to the skipper right now..." Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Worst...carnie ride...ever. And anybody who keeps saying "I'd give anything to do that once..." Trust me when I say you have no idea what you are asking for. There is absolutely NOTHING fun about being stuffed in a windowless box and whipped around at ridiculously high speed to get these G's. And you really have no control over the amount of G's, unlike in the jet. Still interested? Contact the nearest pilot training base, I'm sure somebody will GLADLY let you take their place. Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Worst...carnie ride...ever.And anybody who keeps saying "I'd give anything to do that once..." Trust me when I say you have no idea what you are asking for. There is absolutely NOTHING fun about being stuffed in a windowless box and whipped around at ridiculously high speed to get these G's. And you really have no control over the amount of G's, unlike in the jet. Still interested? Contact the nearest pilot training base, I'm sure somebody will GLADLY let you take their place. Why not just take a ride in a washing machine on spin cycle ... <--- eyeballs after the ride ! Gregg ... (Not one of the guys saying: "I would LOVE to do that!" No thank you ...) Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) Too add to the GCAS story - unlike in an airliner, there are times in a military aircraft where you want to fly close to the ground. CODs have a non-integrated system (no fly by wire) that goes berserk during a day time carrier recovery. Also, as the UC-35 (USMC Citation) mishap at Mirimar a couple years ago showed - you can have two very experienced pilots and 6 redundant ground avoidance tools and still hit the dirt. Edited March 5, 2007 by Spongebob Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Worst...carnie ride...ever.And anybody who keeps saying "I'd give anything to do that once..." Trust me when I say you have no idea what you are asking for. There is absolutely NOTHING fun about being stuffed in a windowless box and whipped around at ridiculously high speed to get these G's. And you really have no control over the amount of G's, unlike in the jet. Still interested? Contact the nearest pilot training base, I'm sure somebody will GLADLY let you take their place. I still say only middle-of-the-road as far as unpleasant experiences in this line of work. Wouldn't go out of my way to do it again, but I'd choose it over dealing with a few choice individuals.... (who look even worse now, if that were possible, given Murph's and Waco's dislike of the ride...) Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Karl- Possibly true, but considering the spectrum of the "line of work," middle of the road is pretty far down the lousy side of the dividing good-bad line for your average human. It could always be worse. Just curious, what kind of profile did you do in the 'fuge? Max G? Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Karl-Possibly true, but considering the spectrum of the "line of work," middle of the road is pretty far down the lousy side of the dividing good-bad line for your average human. It could always be worse. Just curious, what kind of profile did you do in the 'fuge? Max G? yes, max G. Most people just did a "Prowler Profile" - I forget what it was, but it was less (I THINK only 6 or so), seeing as how the design limit for the airplane is +5.5 (and FLE concerns have imposed much more restrictive 'administrative' limits than that). But when I went in and established the baseline, or threshold, or whatever they call it, my resting tolerance was 5.6 they figured in order to get any training out of it at all I'd have to do the max profile. Either way, I'd sooner do it on a daily basis than work for either of my first two skippers again - which may say more about the navy's (or at least VAQ community's) command selection criteria than anything else! Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) By the way, want to guess which aircraft in the USAF has (sorry, should be had) the highest G-LOC rate? The Mighty Tweet. Regards, Murph Edited March 5, 2007 by Murph Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) True. The T-37 did have the highest G-onset rate of any USAF aircraft. No, I'm NOT kidding. Add to that the fact that students did not wear G-suits, and you had a recipe for G-LOC. Edited March 5, 2007 by Waco Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) .....the highest G-LOC rate? The Mighty Tweet. That's only because the airplane is known to be possessed. Edited March 5, 2007 by David Walker Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 True. The T-37 did have the highest G-onset rate of any USAF aircraft. No, I'm NOT kidding.Add to that the fact that students did not wear G-suits, and you had a recipe for G-LOC. Lack of acclimitaztion, etc Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier01 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Soon. Too soon, but that's my personal opinion, and not one that is supported by the overall leadership. Its a long story, but we're probably within about 18-24 months of the first class of F-22 drivers straight out of pilot training. Seems we're headed towards disaster... there are only so many jets to lose out of 183 planes. Link to post Share on other sites
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