Almansur Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 When researching the subject of a decal sheet, many times the hardest part is to get the finishing touches, i. e., the crew names, right. The best among the decal manufacturers go to great lengths to try to accomplish this. Sometimes they are successful, sometimes they are not. I respect them immensely. Other manufactures, however, seem to persist in their errors or shortcomings, even though great efforts have been done to "educate" them. A few minutes ago I saw a reissue that falls squarely into that category. I shall not dwell on it, but for those that care, I leave here a little something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 hint needed...mrh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Jose, are you referring to the dubious name on the front cockpit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Jose, are you referring to the dubious name on the front cockpit? In think so...an Ensign would not be flying an F-14....or any other plane for that matter. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VFA-103guy Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 (edited) Being an Ensign has nothing to do with it. During WWII, lower ranking JO's starting with Ensigns flew just as much as the LT's and LCDR's. Seeing how Jack was a pilot, the squadron chooses to honor him by getting his name on the canopy rail. As for Jose's decal referal, I'm baffled to say the least.. Edited March 18, 2007 by VF-103guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Steffens Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Isn't it Jack Ernie's "Bones" that accompany the Jolly Rogers wherever they go? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 (edited) I'm guessing they left "Bones" off the decal sheet? -Mike Edited March 18, 2007 by PBoilermaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ravensfan6711 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I'm not sure what the picture is all about, but anybody who thinks making decals is an easy process should feel free to start their own company. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Being an Ensign has nothing to do with it. During WWII, lower ranking JO's starting with Ensigns flew just as much as the LT's and LCDR's. Seeing how Jack was a pilot, the squadron chooses to honor him by getting his name on the canopy rail.As for Jose's decal referal, I'm baffled to say the least.. Brian I was not aware that that name had a history with the squadron. At first glance, I simply thought there was a modern-day Ensign named Jack Ernie that was a pilot...something that would not happen now, as you have to be an LT or above to fly. Not all of us are as well-versed in VF-103/Jolly Rogers history as you are. :lol: Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 (edited) EDIT: Nevermind...probably shouldn't have mentioned what I did.... Edited March 18, 2007 by Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VFA-103guy Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 BrianI was not aware that that name had a history with the squadron. At first glance, I simply thought there was a modern-day Ensign named Jack Ernie that was a pilot...something that would not happen now, as you have to be an LT or above to fly. Not all of us are as well-versed in VF-103/Jolly Rogers history as you are. Aaron That's ok..you're fired! :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VFA-103guy Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Isn't it Jack Ernie's "Bones" that accompany the Jolly Rogers wherever they go? Yep. Jack is assigned to the most junior officer in the squadron, and that JO takes him every where...literally.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Sorry, but this "Ensign is too young to fly" stuff is very much wrong. Every Naval Aviator and NFO starts their flying careers as Ensigns. (first of naval officer ranks). True, most are a slightly higher rank by the time they make it to the fleet by virtue of how long the training process takes. It's very common to have nugget aviators/NFO's hit the fleet as LTJG! It's more a matter of time in the program than rank required. -brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 No soup for me!!! :lol: :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Kethan Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Back when they had the NAVCAD program, it wasn't uncommon to see fleet aviators as Ensigns. The NAVCAD's actually got their wings and their commision at the same time. In my fleet P-3 squadron, we had a PPC (patrol plane commander) who was an Ensign. He went through the RAG in 6 months, then upgraded to PPC in about 17 months (which was above average). We were required to complete the upgrade process in 24 months, but most guys got it done in about 19 months. So this guy was an ENS PPC - in command of the flight, with a LT 2P (second pilot) and a LTjg 3P. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Isn't Jack Ernie's name always on the CAG bird? Chappie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Isn't Jack Ernie's name always on the CAG bird?Chappie I believe Jack is always on the CO's bird ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 On another note - the Insignia Blue in the stars'n'bars seems quite a lot more vibrant than what I usually see..! Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 On another note - the Insignia Blue in the stars'n'bars seems quite a lot more vibrant than what I usually see..! Cheers, Andre Andre, you could be right there, I thought it was the way the Sunlight was reflecting off the plane but the color does seem on the light side ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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