Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Great photos...Btw, about the english stencils on the MiG-23, maybe the plane comes from another exhibit and the stencils were meant for the visitors. Otherwise, why would you have to tell a crewmember that he doesn't have to stay under the ordnance? My best guess (with Raymond's help) - its an export bird that didnt make it to the intended addressee and ended up in the museum. Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 some kind of telescopic covering over the hatch to the cockpit. guess it enables access to the cargo carried in flight or something. It's an escape chute........ "To ensure emergency escape from the helicopter during a flight with the platform attached, a telescopic chute was installed under the flight deck; this chute would drop, extending to full length ahead of the cargo platform and permit the crew to bail out safely without striking the slung load" Ken Link to post Share on other sites
trut Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 thanx, flankerman. who else would have the right answer? jumping out of the chopper through a tube, trying not to wind up a splattered bug on the windshield of the bus you're carrying... uh, not the thing I would like to do. ever. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucien Harpress Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Well, I would guess that going down would be a better idea than going up... Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Does someone know what verson of the mig-25 that was on scrapyard? Link to post Share on other sites
Reyes Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Does someone know what verson of the mig-25 that was on scrapyard? About the "blue 02" MiG-25, I'm pretty sure it's a MiG-25R from early (1st ?) production batch : it has a "R" nose and a short tail cone. Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 About the "blue 02" MiG-25, I'm pretty sure it's a MiG-25R from early (1st ?) production batch : it has a "R" nose and a short tail cone. okei, thanks. What is differenses between P and R? Link to post Share on other sites
Reyes Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 okei, thanks. What is differenses between P and R? P : interception R : recognition Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 P : interceptionR : recognition Yeah, but what is differences between them? Model wise. Link to post Share on other sites
Reyes Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Yeah, but what is differences between them? Model wise. I will answer maybe tomorrow because it's a very loooong story. Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Yeah, but what is differences between them? Model wise. “R†Stands for Reconnaissance (Razvedka) The differences between the P (Perehvatchik) and R (Razvedchik) are quite significant. The main difference is the nose. 25R has completely new nose the houses photo/radar and other recce equipment. But it lacks the large interception radar of 25P Observe the 25R nose A.NET LINK 25PD has completely different nose A.net link HTH Z. Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) Alright, decided not to start another thread and post these photos here. When I was at Monino museum there was construction underway for some sort of event. All the evil museum ladies were distracted, so myself, Shark and Sebastijan sneaked to the graveyard in the back of the museum for a closer look. Enjoy. One question,.............What in Hades is this ?, a boat or a plane, it has pontoons for water, but yet it has landing gear in the undercarriage. It looks like wings were removed at mid fuselage. Edited September 19, 2007 by PhantomPhoenix Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 One question,.............What in Hades is this ?, a boat or a plane, it has pontoons for water, but yet it hss landing gear in the undercarriage. It looks like wings were removed at mid fuselage. It's a Bartini VVA-14, or, to be more strictly correct, it is a Bartini 14M1P Ekranoplan. Roberto Bartini was an Italian emigre to the Soviet Union - he ended up designing various aircraft - the most famous of which was the Er-2 WWII bomber. He was given his own design bureau - where he was responsible for many ground-breaking designs - think if him as a Soviet Burt Rutan. The VVA-14 was one of his designs for a VTOL Anti-Submarine aircraft able to take off and land from any surface - water, snow, ice, concrete. It was to have had a bank of twelve lift engines plus two cruise engines on top. It had a wheeled undercarriage - plus inflatable floats for water landing. It made quite a few successful flights in conventional mode - the lift engines were never fitted. Because of the flexible rubber floats, it could never take off from water as a seaplane - only from land. It was supposed to take off from water vertically. Because if the non-appearance of the lift engines, just before his death, he suggested lengthening the forward fuselage and adding two more engines to create a cushion under the wings - and turn it into an ekranoplan (wing in ground effect machine). This was done - and the flexible, inflatable, floats were replaced with rigid floats - creating a 'tunnel' under the inner wings between the fuselage and floats - where the front engines would be used to create the cushion. It thus became the 14M1P - but after Bartini's death, and resultant lack of drive in the project, it was eventually cancelled. The airframe at Monino is the second prototype 14M1P ekranoplan - note the lengthened front fuselage and mounting for the front jets just behind the front access hatch. The first prototype is another wreck at Taganrog. It was an interesting, ground-breaking design, but was destined never to achieve success in either role - VTOL ASW nor Ekranoplan. For more info, check out 'Russia's Ekranoplans' - Vol 8 in the Red Star series. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
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