Tomcat16 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hi alls, I work on a KFIR of Equatorian Air Force and I need your help : I look for photos of the real plane. This one : Sources : www.acig.org It's for the plan of the painting on the real plane, and I would like to verify if there are only two tones of green, I have a doubt... If you want to look at the assembly, it is here (in french) : http://forum.aceboard.net/45288-633-21753-...embler-tard.htm Thanks A++ Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 This photo's pretty tiny, but it does look like just two shades of green on the upper surface: Slightly better photos: According to the article that the second two photos came from, "The colors are French, so there aren't direct FS equivalents. However, the lower surface is LIGHT GRAY, near to 36622 and the upper colors are DARK GREEN, close to the 34079 and MEDIUM GREEN, close to 34257." Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat16 Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes petty tiny :lol: , but right, two shades of green !! I had a doubt in view of this photo : http://www.defesanet.com.br/noticia/kfirc10/foto7.jpg Light and shadow... The photos of Equatorien Kfir are rare on the net. Tanks for your help, David Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) I'm sure you're right, the light and shadow just made it look like there were more than two shades. Great photo by the way. I haven't seen that one before. Edited September 13, 2007 by David Walker Link to post Share on other sites
MickeyThickey Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 There are two schemes. (well, three, but one's grey/grey). The first, per the ACIG profile, is green/green over grey: There is also a three-tone scheme which looks almost SAC-ish: And the grey scheme, FWIW: Link to post Share on other sites
Flex Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) The new scheme also found its way to the TC-2 inventory.. BTW, you forgot the wraparound grey - that is how the FAE905 looks today Edited September 13, 2007 by Flex Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tran Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) David; Does Dassault make Kfirs? Tomcat; http://www.aztecmodels.com/cenepa/FAE1.htm Edited September 13, 2007 by Dr. Tran Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat16 Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) Thanks to all In view of the Mickey's second photo, I do not follow any more too much sure of the only two tones of green ... it leave me perplexed, it's possible and another color schema on the FAE905. Not excactly the FAE909 scheme (intermediate green in difuses spots in the light green), but arranged in the dark green. The question remains opened :( Know you if several planes carried this three tones scheme ?? David;Does Dassault make Kfirs? Tomcat; http://www.aztecmodels.com/cenepa/FAE1.htm Kfir is not a plane of Dassault, it was made by IAI (Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd) in Israel. But it was strongly inspired by the Mirage III, the engine is J79 turbojet ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Kfir Yes I have this decals sheet :D Best regards, Edited September 13, 2007 by Tomcat16 Link to post Share on other sites
EF Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Will this help? Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hi alls, I work on a KFIR of Equatorian Air Force and I need your help : I look for photos of the real plane. This one : Sources : www.acig.org It's for the plan of the painting on the real plane, and I would like to verify if there are only two tones of green, I have a doubt... If you want to look at the assembly, it is here (in french) : http://forum.aceboard.net/45288-633-21753-...embler-tard.htm Thanks :D A++ That is some impressive conversion work you are doing! Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat16 Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 Will this help? ...yes, I've got it :D : ;) Yes petty tiny :( , but right, two shades of green !!I had a doubt in view of this photo : http://www.defesanet.com.br/noticia/kfirc10/foto7.jpg Light and shadow... The photos of Equatorien Kfir are rare on the net. Tanks for your help, David That is some impressive conversion work you are doing! Like we said in France : "Ã coeur vaillant rien d'impossible" (in brave heart nothing impossible) Link to post Share on other sites
the_baphomet_00 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) Hi alls, I work on a KFIR of Equatorian Air Force and I need your help : I look for photos of the real plane... ..It's for the plan of the painting on the real plane, and I would like to verify if there are only two tones of green, I have a doubt... hi Tomcat16... check this out... <<< W A L K A R O U N D >>> finally.. ...I built one ecuadorian Kfir some time ago and I used the following Humbrol colors: 116 Dk. Green, light green mix: 1/2 hu63 +1/2 hu120 and hu28 underneath.. regards.- Alberto Edited September 14, 2007 by the_baphomet_00 Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Did the Equatorian Air Force actually end up buying the Kfir CE or are the photos of one that was there for evaluation, I was under the impression the CE / C-10 never became operational. Thanks Jim Barr Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Did the Equatorian Air Force actually end up buying the Kfir CE <...> AFAIK, yes, they did. Or at least those Kfirs they have are to - or have already been - upgraded. Link to post Share on other sites
the_baphomet_00 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) After the 1995 border clash with Peru; they bought some additional aircrafts for fill up the fleet joint with the CE upgrade package... this as a gap measure to counter the peruvian MiG-29 purchase.. they also added some Python IV missiles... But due to finnancial delays originated by the crash of ecuadorian econnomy they upgraded some few machines and eventually when money is available; they upgrade one additional machine.. and another some time later.... and so... regards.- Alberto. Edited September 14, 2007 by the_baphomet_00 Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat16 Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 Hi Alberto from Caracas Thank you very much for your precious help !! OK for simple maintenance "touch ups" green. I find the Primeportal kfir photocopes but your Equador Kfir photoscope will be very useful for me. Regards, :huh: Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewS Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 hi Tomcat16... check this out... regards.- Alberto Hi Alberto, PM sent regarding above decals. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites
LoganTLR Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 check this out...<<< W A L K A R O U N D >>> Alberto Hi Great shots of a rare subject, thanks. Andean Decals, do you have more info? I have been in the mood to do a lot of South American MIRAGEs of late and if this sheet is representative of the line then I must buy lots !! Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites
the_baphomet_00 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 AndrewS, LoganTLR... Guys.. I´ll contact the owner of Andean Decals.. (he is a friend of mine) and I post the info here... regards.- Alberto Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I'd also be interested in the Mirage F.1 and Kfir sheets! :o Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I am definitely in for one of the Kfir sheets, sent an e-mail to the address listed on the site but have not heard back yet so any info on how to order would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Barr Link to post Share on other sites
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