Karl Sander Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 but dude, you get to fly ! :D not during the air wing I don't... But in all honesty, that's the instructional work I really sort of enjoy. I was just having this conversation with one of the SH-60 instructors Thursday night/Friday morning after a CSAR event.... It's certainly cool to see a crew nail an event and not really need much in the way of a debrief... that means they "get it" and if they have to do it for real, they'll probably do well, be heroes, get medals, and all that. But as a professional instructor, it's personally rewarding every once in a while to see someone goon something up, have to debrief them on it, and be able to pull it off in such a way that the dude is happy about it and wants to buy you a drink afterwards... It means you drove home the learning point without alienating the audience. Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 It means you're a good instructor too ... I bet it's rewarding when you see the lightbulb turn on and you know they "get it" ... Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 My all time FAVORITE job - because it didn't involve non-flying, non-tactical navy sillines - was strength and conditioning coach. Seeing dudes go from the sorta-tubby, shy freshman to team captain, confident leader senior because of the effort he put forth and, I'd like to think, the coaching and encouragement he got from yours truly and a dude who plays on Sundays now. I DO really enjoy the teaching and tactical parts of the job - I liken it to being a doctor. No MD I know would with a disease on anyone, but LOTS of MDs I know like the intellectual challenge. Likewise, no one I know WANTS to fight, but LOTS of folks I know like the intellectual challenge of taking down IADS, and beyond that, teaching - and watching someone eventually grasp - the intellectual gymnastics it requires... Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hmmm, have you thought about some sort of coaching/conditioning type of work after the Navy ? Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hmmm, have you thought about some sort of coaching/conditioning type of work after the Navy ? Gregg I have 10 1/2 years left. Thus far, I've thought about "surviving." And Katherine Heigl... but that's a different story. Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Whatever keeps ya going ... I can see Kathrine working ... Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Time for more Tomcats! Fallon TPS jets, 98. Both our options are former VF-24 jets (201 and 207 to be exact) And the 10 splinter! -brian Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Courtesy of Jon Bibay, Topgun's splinter. Note the TOPGUN on the wing glove. Both the Iranian and Splinter had this. Makes me want to build both just because of this marking! -b Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) The #30 is not this bird? http://www.tomcatalley.com/images/f14a/nfws/f14anfwn.htm http://www.tomcatalley.com/images/f14a/nfws/f14anfwm.htm Do you know if the camouflage partner was the same?Only colors were different?FS numbers?A Borg Cube in my garden? Edited September 22, 2007 by Mizar Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Same jet. -brian Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) Uhm wait wait,same jet: We can build bot the light red camouflaged bird and the other #10 twin? Holy cow I was waiting the decals for this bird since I saw it for the first time some years ago Don't want to bug you anymore,but the are there any pictures of the 3rd variation of the Powder Puff? Edited September 22, 2007 by Mizar Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) I'm not sure what you are calling 'light-red' camouflage... That picture inflight of 30 is the standard blue splinter that it always carried, whether 30, 10 or 20 modex. I think what you are calling 'red' is the sunlight hitting the dark Ghost gray paint... I've heard people think there was a desert splinter - Topgun or NSAWC NEVER had that. VF-101 and VF-11 both had sand desert temporary schemes at one time and NSAWC had an Iranian "desert" scheme, 13. Sorry to disappoint you... As for the third variation of the Powderpuff, it was just a modex change. -brian Edited September 22, 2007 by Brian P: Fightertown Decals Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Crap,nm a Tomcat is a Tomcat,even with the sun tricking me :D Link to post Share on other sites
sundowner Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'm not sure what you are calling 'light-red' camouflage... That picture inflight of 30 is the standard blue splinter that it always carried, whether 30, 10 or 20 modex. I think what you are calling 'red' is the sunlight hitting the dark Ghost gray paint...I've heard people think there was a desert splinter - Topgun or NSAWC NEVER had that. VF-101 and VF-11 both had sand desert temporary schemes at one time and NSAWC had an Iranian "desert" scheme, 13. Sorry to disappoint you... As for the third variation of the Powderpuff, it was just a modex change. -brian I agree with Brian , there was never a desert splinter Tomcat .....! Those photo's were it appears to carry a kind of desert scheme is because of the lightfall . when I was at Miramar around that time when those photo's were taken , I asked about it , and they assured me no desert splinter Tomcat Maybe this photo will clarify things: This is F-14A 159855 NFWS 30 ( 1994 /95 ) Henk "Omar" Link to post Share on other sites
Sunliner Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 What shades of blue are on NSAWC's jets, or are they mixed by the squadron? Link to post Share on other sites
sundowner Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I would like to join and show you some NFWS Hornets , the photo's were taken in the late afternoon on 16 feb 1995 , just after the the disestablishment ceremony of VF-111 @ NAS Miramar F/A-18 162871 NFWS 43 photo by Henk van der Lugt F/A-18A 161715 NFWS 74 photo by Henk van der Lugt The quality isn't the best but lighting wasn't too good either ! Henk "Omar" Link to post Share on other sites
sundowner Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 That was actually a different jet -97 got. I believe 46? 42 was only painted that way at Topgun. It was repainted or stricken shortly after moving to NSAWC, and it never wore the NSAWC bolt.-brian I seem to remember that on the NFWS 46 there were two different BuNo's stencilled : 162894 and 162984 Brian, can you remember this or is it just a brain warp of me ???? Henk "Omar" Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 When You're in a "2v1" and you're the "1" - it helps you know WHO YOU'VE SHOT, AND WHO YOU HAVEN'T.Thanks for the reply. I must assume then that camo color had little to with distance at which an adversary was spotted. It's all about the dark spot in the sky or moving blotch against the terrain. Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Thanks for the reply. I must assume then that camo color had little to with distance at which an adversary was spotted. It's all about the dark spot in the sky or moving blotch against the terrain. All sort of depends on background and lighting... Link to post Share on other sites
tomthegrom Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Interesting to note in those f-14a pics that both engine nozzles are open and in one both are closed. I thought normally it was one open one closed. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 It has to do with the taxi power settings and engine shut down. -brian Link to post Share on other sites
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