GreyGhost Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 hi thanks for your answer Midway Sailor. have a look here please! Those tail markings are pre-deployment and have since been removed ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PHIL25102 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 its horrible! nobody take pic during this time!thanks Gregg! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I imagine there are some pics somewhere, maybe just not on the internet yet but yeah, it was a short lived scheme ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Lot of Air Ops/Strike Ops jobs out there right? Cheers Collin I'm sure they'll be plenty, and I'll be more than happy to take a year in Bahrain, Qatar, Diego Garcia or just about anywhere else to avoid them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GMK Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Wait until the Australian Growlers roll out... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FeetDry Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 For those interested, looks like the new CVW-17 tail code is 'NA'. Check it out on the VFA-94 CAG: http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/120815-N-FR671-346.jpg Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flynavy Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 For those interested, looks like the new CVW-17 tail code is 'NA'. Check it out on the VFA-94 CAG: http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/120815-N-FR671-346.jpg Jeff wow thats different! Who all exactly is in CVW-17 now? I know VFA-81 is and i cant wait to see them sporting the "NA" around here at Oceana! When did the Shrikes become part of 17? Last i heard they were one of the land-based squadrons deploying to Japan and such with the Marines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FeetDry Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 By the time CVW-17 rejoins the Vinson after PIA, I'm not sure who all will be present. The Shrikes left the UDP and just joined the wing within the last month or two. VAQ-134 has apparently transferred to CVW-8, so looks like a Growler squadron will probably come over. And I believe HSM-78 will be joining the wing flying the MH-60R. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flynavy Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 By the time CVW-17 rejoins the Vinson after PIA, I'm not sure who all will be present. The Shrikes left the UDP and just joined the wing within the last month or two. VAQ-134 has apparently transferred to CVW-8, so looks like a Growler squadron will probably come over. And I believe HSM-78 will be joining the wing flying the MH-60R. ] Jeff Ok ive been trying forever to find out who would be replacing the Shadowhawks in CVW-8. Is VAQ-134 flying Growlers yet or are they still in Prowlers? I figured CVW-8 would get another Growler squadron since their supply system and the boat is set-up now for Growlers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moffettflyer Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 VAQ-134 is still in Prowlers. - So who are the Shirkes replacing in CVW-17 ? VFA-25 while they transition to the Echo or VFA-113 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FeetDry Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 VAQ-134 is still in Prowlers. - So who are the Shirkes replacing in CVW-17 ? VFA-25 while they transition to the Echo or VFA-113 ? I still don't know for sure who they replaced. Gonna be watching closely to try and find out though... 'NA' is gonna take some getting used to for me. Probably sounds silly to say this, but I wish they'd chosen another code. Maybe the Navy is trying to save money by repainting only half of all those 'AA's... :lol: Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moffettflyer Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Man the wheels are turnin' up in old nogin. Lets assume it's VFA-25 who is being replaced in CVW-17. Where do the Fist's go when their transition is complete? They don't go UDP do they ? I've suspected for a long time that now that the Lincoln is in Newport for overhaul, CVW-2 looses it's fighter squadrons who find a new home in CVW-14. Joined by VFA-25 and VAQ-136 or 139. This allows VAQ-131 to transition to the Growler and VFA-34 or VFA-151 to transition to the Super Hornet. It'll be interesting to say the least to see where all these squadrons end up after transition to their new mounts. I can't look at the new NA tail code without thinking 'Not Applicable' ! Edited August 18, 2012 by Moffettflyer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I thought it meant "Not Available" ... :lol: -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) I thought it meant "Not Available" ... Once again...the active duty side of the Navy (and most disappointly Navy Aviation) has no, none, zero sense of history. Evidently they didn't spend much time on it. Technically, CVW-14 is supposed to be dead...it was already killed then the budget language stated the Navy will maintain 10 CVW's and there was a mad-scramble re-establishment. But, CVW-14 is missing from future plans. Edited August 18, 2012 by Spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jacek Z. Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Where do the Fist's go when their transition is complete? They don't go UDP do they ? I suppose not. It looks MCAS Iwakuni has no maintenance for F/A-18E/F yet. NAF Misawa has EA-18Gs now (so maybe some E/F would be acceptable there?), but I think Navy and Marine "Legacy" Hornet units still fit each other better at UDP. This allows VAQ-131 to transition to the Growler and VFA-34 or VFA-151 to transition to the Super Hornet. It'll be interesting to say the least to see where all these squadrons end up after transition to their new mounts. Not sure how many squadrons per year can make the transition nowadays, but I believe not much more than two for the E model. I can't look at the new NA tail code without thinking 'Not Applicable' ! Or 'Never Again'? It's a pity they didn't taken over the last CVW-10 tail code. Edited August 18, 2012 by Jacek Z. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve E Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Hello, first time poster here but long time reader. A couple of questions I have concerning CVW-14 and CVW-17. Why deactivate a west coast wing, then move an east coast wing west? Why not transfer CVW-14 to CVN-70 now that the deployment is over and deactivate CVW-17? Not making any since to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Hey Steve, welcome to participating in the madness ... As to your query, my only guess is because that would make sense to do it that way, also one would think it would be cheaper too ... -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Midway Sailor Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Where is the new vaq-132 CAG?????? http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=68375 Update on the VAQ-132 CAG Bird: As of August 15th, the colored national insignia remained, but the red lettering on the modex and PC name has been changed to black lettering. Crew names have also been added below the canopy rail. However, while other squadron aircraft have the lo-viz scorpion tails, this aircraft still has a blank tail. VAQ-132 on U.S. Pacific Fleet's photostream Edited August 20, 2012 by Midway Sailor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FeetDry Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Hello, first time poster here but long time reader. A couple of questions I have concerning CVW-14 and CVW-17. Why deactivate a west coast wing, then move an east coast wing west? Why not transfer CVW-14 to CVN-70 now that the deployment is over and deactivate CVW-17? Not making any since to me. I have pondered that same question many times! It seems like most times when a decision is made that defies all logic, one word can only explain it: POLITICS. There are at least 3 political dynamics that I think could have played into it, in some form or fashion: 1) The Navy wanting to reduce to 9 CVWs 2) Congress mandating 10 CVWs 3) The shift of more forces to PAC, and all the political junk that could come from those relocations. Not a firm answer to your question, but I think these might be pieces to the puzzle... And welcome aboard, from another newbie! Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moffettflyer Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Don't know why I didn't think of this before.... the photo of VFA-94 wearing the new NA tail codes also show the 400 modex. VFA-25 used the 400 modex while with CVW-17. Pretty clear VFA-25 is out and VFA-94 in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike5401 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 VFA-25 is more than likely going to the 200 modex series with their Echo's, as that's what they have right now on some of their birds which are at 122 at the moment, but things could change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hello, first time poster here but long time reader. A couple of questions I have concerning CVW-14 and CVW-17. Why deactivate a west coast wing, then move an east coast wing west? Why not transfer CVW-14 to CVN-70 now that the deployment is over and deactivate CVW-17? Not making any since to me. Timing...when CVW-14 was prematurely shut down CVW-17 was on deployment or just back and in the surge window. HTH Spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moffettflyer Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 VFA-25 is more than likely going to the 200 modex series with their Echo's, as that's what they have right now on some of their birds which are at 122 at the moment, but things could change. VFA-81 Sunliners flying the F/A-18E currently use the 200 modex. I think it is more likely that VFA-25 is no longer part of CVW-17 rather than VFA-25 remaining in the airwing, assuming the 200 modex from VFA-81 who woulld then have to repaint all of their jets with a new modex. Meanwhile VFA-94 joins the airwing taking modex 400 replacing VFA-113 for what ? Also I believe VFA-122's Echos all carry the 200 modex. So I don't think that means VFA-25 will carry 200 in anywing. These VFA-25 Echos at VFA-122's flight line - do they carry squadron markings and tail code? If so what tail code? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) I have no clue who is going where but it's not out of the question for a squadron to repaint their Modex with Air Wing shuffles ... Two recent examples: VFA-103 had to switch to the 2XX modex when VFA-143 demanded the 1XX modex in CVW-7 ... Also, VFA-211 had to switch to the 2XX modex when VFA-11 joined CVW-1 and got the 1XX modex.... Just pointing out that it does happen and that it's not that big of a deal ... Anyway, enjoy a nice shot of Victory 200 ... ARABIAN SEA (Aug. 20, 2012) An F/A-18F Super Hornet from the Jolly Rogers of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 103 launches from the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69). Eisenhower is deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility conducting maritime security operations, theater security cooperation efforts and support missions as part of Operation Enduring Freedom. (U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ryan D. McLearnon/Released) >>> Hi Res <<< -Gregg Edited August 23, 2012 by GreyGhost Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moffettflyer Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I had no idea switching modex was that common place. Guess you could say you put me in my place! :) I knew VFA-103 had changed to 200, didn't realize or forgot about VFA-211. I'm sure there are many more exhamples out there as well. Only recently have I been really following individual squadrons and airwings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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