ChernayaAkula Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) Found this pic in THIS BLOG. Original location Real plane - or not? Looks like a "best-of" of the Raptor, F-25 and F-16. EDIT: Can you guys see it? Sometimes it works for me, sometimes it doesn't. ;) Edited October 22, 2007 by ChernayaAkula Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Moritz, I get the on here but I see the pic in the link you provided ... It is interesting ... Thanks ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Real plane - or not? Looks like a "best-of" of the Raptor, F-25 and F-16. Don't look real. And yeah, it looks like a cross breed of the Raptor and F-35. Where are Lockheed's lawyers? :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) Whoa! Very interesting. Thanks for posting the link Motitz. Could anyone translate the article, please? Edited October 23, 2007 by Zmey Smirnoff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DPD1 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Well, if it's fake, they did a pretty good job. I looked in PS and it looks real to me. It still has the embedded info in the file, which says it was shot on the 21st, and even says the camera had a Chinese version of firmware. If it's real, it's a joke... Because why would you bother creating an aircraft that obviously mimics a stealth design on the nose, but is designed to carry external weapons. If it's real... Looks like they're up to their old tricks simply copying what the US does. Virtually every other western product is bootlegged in China, so why not fighter aircraft I guess. Dave www.TheNorthSpin.com Dedicated to Aircraft Flight Test for the Aviation Enthusiast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 If it's real, it's a joke... Because why would you bother creating an aircraft that obviously mimics a stealth design on the nose, but is designed to carry external weapons. If it's real... Looks like they're up to their old tricks simply copying what the US does. Virtually every other western product is bootlegged in China, so why not fighter aircraft I guess.Dave www.TheNorthSpin.com Dedicated to Aircraft Flight Test for the Aviation Enthusiast F-22 is designed to carry external stores in addition to internal load. With F-22 being the "best of the best" copying it, isnt such a bad idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DPD1 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 F-22 is designed to carry external stores in addition to internal load. With F-22 being the "best of the best" copying it, isnt such a bad idea. I understand that, but obviously the one in the photo leans towards external weapons. The 22 leans towards internal weapons, with an option for external on some weapons. A big part of what makes the 22 do what is does is the electronics. I seriously doubt they've copied that accurately. Assuming this thing is real in the first place. I translated the blog, but it doesn't really say anything. Dave www.TheNorthSpin.com Dedicated to Aircraft Flight Test for the Aviation Enthusiast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 *yawn* Paging Dr. Google... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DPD1 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Wow... Different forum name but same smart a#%, know-it-all attitudes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 Oh, frickin' great! Before anyone else says it: TWEET! Regarding the external weapons on what looks like it's intended to be a stealth fighter: Considering it IS real and considering this was a flight to show-off the capabilities of a new fighter, wouldn't you try to hang everything possible onto it to convince the politicians they'll get sh!t-loads of bangs for their bucks? On the other hand, Chinese fighter prototypes were always painted in all kinds of colours, while this one looks more like an active-duty version would look like. Next thing: This is the only (probably only, if it's fake) pic of the fighter. Who knows, maybe all the photographer got was a loaded example. Judging load-outs from this single pic is a bit hasty. Well, if it's fake, they did a pretty good job. I looked in PS and it looks real to me. It still has the embedded info in the file, which says it was shot on the 21st, and even says the camera had a Chinese version of firmware. Most interesting. Didn't know one could glean that much info from a pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) *yawn*Paging Dr. Google... That's the ferrying configuration. There was recently discussed jet modeling forum on this topic of external weapons on the F-22. Drop Tanks... Ferry only configuration at this time. Not a combat config. There are a multitude of limitations that get slapped onto the jet when carrying the tanks, so we're not carrying them into combat any time soon. and external AIM-120s... Also not an authorized configuration at this time. Future growth, maybe. However, there'd have to be a pretty significant need to carry them, and a willingness to sacrifice stealth characteristics to do it. With funds as limited as they are, I don't see a whole lot of time/energy/money being spent to test that configuration. So, is it capable of external stores carriage? Yes. Do they carry external weapons? No. Are they planning on it? No Dr. Google? Isn't that kinda like getting a diagnosis from WebMD as opposed to actually going to see a doctor? Edited October 23, 2007 by Trigger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Moritz, thanks for finding that pic. Real or not, it's interesting to look at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) Wow... nice fake photo. The thing has an A-6 nose gear and that RCS-multiplying ventral strake is gonna be really good for its stealth characteristics. I'm all for seeing the next new thing. The pics of the WZ-10 are friggin awesome. This is a bad joke. Edited October 23, 2007 by Cobrahistorian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 So, is it capable of external stores carriage? Yes. That is all I was trying to say. No need imagining past that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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wakko807 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 and external AIM-120s...So, is it capable of external stores carriage? Yes. I just watched Transformers and the F-22s carried wing mounted AIM-120s in the last battle sequence against Megatron...I even played it in slow motion again to double check lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnopfor Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Whoa! Very interesting. Thanks for posting the link Motitz.Could anyone translate the article, please? The author stated that he posted the photo with reservations, he isn't sure if it is fake. He says that it isn't an F-22, YF-23 or an F-35 but possibly a montage of all three. He is also looking for more confirmation on this aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I just watched Transformers and the F-22s carried wing mounted AIM-120s in the last battle sequence against Megatron...I even played it in slow motion again to double check lol That's all the confirmation I need ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wakko807 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I just watched Transformers and the F-22s carried wing mounted AIM-120s in the last battle sequence against Megatron...I even played it in slow motion again to double check lol That's all the confirmation I need ... Gregg :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I thought we closed down Real Aviation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 The author stated that he posted the photo with reservations, he isn't sure if it is fake. He says that it isn't an F-22, YF-23 or an F-35 but possibly a montage of all three. He is also looking for more confirmation on this aircraft. Thank you! ------------------------------------ Apparently the photo was taken from a magazine... nothing further is known right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woodman Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I thought we closed down Real Aviation? It was a nice try, but a bit naive to actually think it could be nipped in the bud. Hears for tryin'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnopfor Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 If you look at all four pictures on the bottom, it looks like an F-16 with the wing-root intakes and a twin tail configuration. It's problably an "What-if" design that didn't get off of the drawing board as of yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 If you look at all four pictures on the bottom, it looks like an F-16 with the wing-root intakes and a twin tail configuration. <...> Which actually looks kinda cool.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 "Camelot!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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