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jinxx1 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 One of the Lackland Thuds about 1986. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Too bad the artwork had to have been removed from "Mutley the Flying Dog" . However, here's a question, many pictures of THUDS show a tarp covering the nose section (on 'D's', 'F's', and 'G's'), what is the purpose of this tarp? Was it to protect sensitive equipment in this area from the sun or something? Cheers! Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thetoe17 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Wow, they sure went a bit heavy on the panel lines, didn't they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jinxx1 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 They just wanted to emulate preshading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 However, here's a question, many pictures of THUDS show a tarp covering the nose section (on 'D's', 'F's', and 'G's'), what is the purpose of this tarp? Was it to protect sensitive equipment in this area from the sun or something? Don It is mostly an attempt to keep moisture out of the electronics. That was BIG problem with the THUD throughout it's lifetime. Darwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 When I returned to SEA in 1974 the only aircraft with sharkmouths were a couple A-7Ds anf the F-4es of the 34th TFS. Eventually even these were removed, but not easily. I noticed while on one of my flight line photo excursions that while the mouths were being removed from the fuselage they were showing up in other areas of the aircraft. The F-4 would have them on the front of the AIM 9 rails and the F-111 started using them on the forward ECM pods. They would disapear and show up again on the same aircraftevery so often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 What was it that made the Thuds hydraulic system so bad if battle damage was taken? I think it was Jack Broughton that once stated that a pilot could lose two of the three systems and be in serious trouble before he knew it and then more then likely lose the aircraft? Were they located too close together so that any damage to one hydraulic system would probably damage the other two? I've always been curious about this. Btw...THUDS ROCK and this is a great thread! Cheers! Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks, it wasn't always easy going out and getting these during missions. You had to make sure you didn't get too cose to the running aircraft and vehicles. When I find them I'll post the ones where I had a couple thuds come within 50-100 feet of me during takeoff. When I tried to move away, the wingman moved in the same direction forcing the other ship to head my way too. Wow, looking forward to seeing them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Two THUD videos from online sources that may interest some fellow THUD fans (I don't think they have been posted in this thread yet B) ...appologies if they were...I honestly missed them!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiY2ddEsJ8k...feature=related Cheers! Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 What was it that made the Thuds hydraulic system so bad if battle damage was taken? Don The F-105 was originally built with dual, redundant hydraulic systems, but the lines for both of them ran side by side down the center of the lower fuselage. One hit from AAA anywhere in the belly would disable both systems and then the stab would go to full nose down. Not a particularly good thing to happen at high speed and low altitude. They later added a third utility system that ran along the top of the fuselage, (covered by the added, small turtle deck that ran from the canopy to the fin), that would give some semblence of pitch control long enough to exit the target area. It was still usually necessary to pull the yellow and black handles, but at least the pilot had a little bit of choice in the where and when. Darwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F106A Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) The kids and I cleaned out the garage today as it's Spring cleanup weekend here in Abilene and I started digging through some of my old stuff. I found an old briefcase from my Civil Air Patrol days (late 70's) and found these photos. Back then you could write letters (yea, hand written, lick a stamp, LETTERS!) to units and if you asked nice enough they would send you photos, fact sheets and maybe a patch! I got these pics back then. The first two are 8x10's which are copies of original USAF photos. The bottom Weasel pic was sent to me from the 116th TFW, GA ANG. Mark Edited April 13, 2008 by Mark O. Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F106A Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I just checked on Joe Baugher's site and found this out about 59-1750... 1750 shot down by ground fire Dec 14, 1967. Pilot BGen James Sehorn became POW. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 <...> <...> What an AWESOME shot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomologist Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Early Thuds 54-0107 54-0102 54-0104 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Aggressor Supporter Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I like this one! ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomologist Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Tell that guy to get the heck out of your shot! Wait! There is something familar about that person. I think I know that guy Call security! Oh wait, that's me. Dang sorry for screwing up your shot, 20+ years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomologist Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Here are three of the inmates of that Lackland compound all shot through the chain link fence. F-105D 61-0108 F-105D 61-0115 F-105D 62-4318 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F106A Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I think I posted these before but here are a some shots I took back in November 2006 when I was down at Lackland for EAUC. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomologist Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 NMUSAF F-105D 60-0504 F-105G 63-8320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F106A Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 And the only close-ups I got... Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomologist Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 USAF AMNT Museum 58-1155 Maxwell AFB 61-0176 Holloman AFB since repainted to more accurate scheme 61-0041 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomologist Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Thanks Mark. Nice to see they are still safe. Still a shame we could not get in the fence and shoot them in their original paint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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