German MiG-29

[Darth Putty]

I saw a program on The Military Channel about F-18's Going to Germany to do some DACM with MiG-29's. The program was called Red October. Ever since then I wanted to build a MiG-29. My question is do the mIg's carry an ACMI pod for debriefing? I can't seem to find any pictures of a MiG with a pod. It's hard to believe in this day and age they would use the old "I shot you first" playground kind of thing.

David

[ChernayaAkula]

I've got an article on that at home, but am a my sister's place. Will look for it when I'm home later on.

When I was at Rostock-Laage a couple of years ago, there were French Mirage 2000s and A-10s from Spangdahlem. Apparently, lots of Alllies used to do DACM with Luftwaffe MiGs.

[Darth Putty]

Is that the nose of a ACMI pod

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0747984/L/

Or these

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0536417/L/

David

[Reddog]

Yes it is.

The first pic is of a TACTS Pod (Tactical Air Combat Training System).

The second is of a ARDS Pod (Advanced Range Data System).

Both are variants of ACMI Pods.

Reddog

[Darth Putty]

Yes it is.

The first pic is of a TACTS Pod (Tactical Air Combat Training System).

The second is of a ARDS Pod (Advanced Range Data System).

Both are variants of ACMI Pods.

Reddog

Thanks Reddog. Know where I can find some good pics of the ARDS pod to scratchbuild one. I tried googleing but nothing came up.

Found this pic:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0236486/L/

Pretty difinative on the TACTS pod! I can't decide what rail that is. Could it be that a western pod is mounted on a russian rail?

Edited December 7, 2007 by Darth Putty

[Reddog]

The launcher TACTS Pod is mounted on is a U.S. LAU-7 bolted onto the MIG's pylon. As far as scratching building a pod I would recommend just cutting off the wings and fins of a sidewinder, shaping the nose and adding the probe. ACMI Pods basically use the body of a Sidewinder and have a different nose.

A TACTS Pod will have the probe on the nose and a ARDS Pod just has a slightly pointed/rounded nose, no probe. TACTS Pods are usually painted orange with a black nose and chrome probe, ARDS Pods are usually white with a silver tip on the nose.

HTH

Reddog

Edit:

Pic of a TACTS Pod

http://www.mawdecals.com/Reference/VMFA224...engals01_16.JPG

Pic of a ARDS Pod (the one on the right)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...l%3Den%26sa%3DN

Edited December 8, 2007 by Reddog

[SCOUT712]

My question is do the mIg's carry an ACMI pod for debriefing? I can't seem to find any pictures of a MiG with a pod.

David

It depends where the DACT deployment took place.

Here in Germany we use the FPR (Flight Profile Recorder) system.

It basically looks like an AIM-9 body It is all gloss white with a grey tip (only the tip, even smaller than the

AIM-9 seekerhead).

Check out : http://www.midkiff.cz/index.php?page=defen...le-recorder-fpr

If the deployment took place at an ACMI then the MiG's would probalbly carry one ACMI-Pod, one FPR-pod and one AA-11 dummy.

The FPR would be used to figure out the own lines before the mass debrief.

When the DACT took place at Laage then the MiG's would only carry one FPR-Pod and one AA-11 dummy and the DACT partner would also receive the FPR-pod.

SCOUT