Likoyan Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 (edited) First of all, I wish to say hello to every body, this is mi first action on the ARC, and I hope you like it :D This model is inspired on the well known works of Master Flankerman and Master Haneto, and I will do my best effort to give honour them. Please, forgive my poor english skills :wub: You can find a very good reference about Flanker family here: http://www.lindenhillimports.com/flankers.htm Thank you again Master Flankerman I got this Berkut kit a few years ago, since it has an acceptable "canard's shoulder" ang general shape, finally I found the courage to build it. There is a lot of work to do, beggining with the short length of this Kit, I found that the best place to made the "surgery" is the middle section of the fuselage, so I traced the line to be sectioned on the upper and lower halves: Edited December 16, 2007 by Likoyan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Likoyan Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 (edited) a little help from my jig saw: and now I have more parts to assamble.... To enlarge the fuselage, I added four styrene stripes on the upper side and three on the lower side, To paste forward and rear sections of the upper section I used as a gide the lower/rear fuselage section and vice versa Edited December 16, 2007 by Likoyan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Likoyan Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 (edited) As you can see on the pics, I do not saw the upper and lower halves on the same point, this was for minimize the disalign effects. The huge gaps on the sections were filled with styrene scraps and cyano: Edited December 16, 2007 by Likoyan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Likoyan Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 (edited) After sanding: Don't be afraid to erase the detail: it has raised pannel lines and will be all engraved. The following challenge will be the fitting of the Ne Omegas's S-47 cockpitt (it is more appropiate for a Su-37 as it have a side control stick, LCD/MFD instruments and 30 degree tilted seat, instead of the analogic instrument and conventional configuration of a Su-27 one) and the Pavla's canopy for Su-27 (this item is for use on the Italeri kit) See you soon folks! Abraham Licona Edited December 16, 2007 by Likoyan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Wow! Good luck for your build! You seem to have a clear vision what this kit needs to be accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Good work! I cant wait for more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 That's some great work there! :blink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josh1971 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Wow- that's some great work on extending the length of the plane. Can't wait to see how the rest of this turns out. JB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan T. Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 (edited) Excelente comienzo paisano!! :D This is going to be a cool build! where are you located? Ivan Edited December 15, 2007 by Ivan T. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 It's looking good, Likoyan.... Keep us posted on progress..... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MiG31 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Good luck on the rest of the build. I finished the same kit back in March, and encountered quite a few problems to make it accurate. I can tell you've cut it in a different place: I cut mine right between where the canards and wing leading edge were to meet, and added a 3/8" plug. Keep in mind you'll also have to stretch the intakes an equal amount. Here are a couple of other items I did that should be done before too much progress is made: -Flatten out the "pancake" area between the wings. The spine is too blended into this surface. -The sides of the forward fuselage are too flat. You'll have to add plastic strips and putty, then shape to give it a more rounded cross-section. A couple of other things I did were replace the canopy/windscreen with a vacform canopy from Pavla, and reshape the ventral fins and tailplanes using the Airfix Flanker parts as templates. Good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Likoyan Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Thank you guys, very much for your gentile attention!! Ivan: I am from a little town called Totimehuacán, very close to Puebla City, but I work and live in Mexico City, so usually I spend my weekends on my "Tierra" ....... building model kits :D , of course this turns crazy my girlfriend. :blink: MiG31: Thank you very much for all your tips, I will keep them in mind, you can be sure Step II: Re-modeling the forward section Here you are a couple of pics to show how looks the original canopy: Not good looking for me; now a view of the fuselage with the vaccum one from Pavla: I know that the Pavla's canopy, designed for the Italeri kit, is too big, but is the best choice in this case. As can be seen on this pic, the bath tube of Ne Omega's S-47 cockpitt is too wide for the Berkut's fuselage So I will use the Pavla's canopy as a gide to make some space there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Likoyan Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 The Pavla's canopy is wider than the Berkut's fuselage, so you can be sure that there will be sufficient space for the Ne Omega's item; as the vaccum canopy comes with a portion of the Italeri's fuselage moulded I will use it to correct the wrong side-flattered shape of the kit's fuselage, as MiG31 advises. I will cut out the canopy ( I love open canopies on small scale aircrafts ) making some space.... On this stage I removed the control panel's area, most of wich will be scratch-builded, and I will use the straight top ends to align the sections: The rear section of the Ne-Omega's S-47 cockpitt (canopy ram area) needs to be widened to fill the gap and match the vaccum canopy Too late to repent... after some filling and sanding... I added a styrene plate on the rear section to place the cockpitt, this plate must keep the "tilt" of the cockpitt See you soon!!! Abraham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Wow,another stunning work! :D BTW,don't you feel that the canpy of Italeri kit(also the Pavla Models vacuum one) is too long and wide? Keep on with the nice progress! :blink: Yufei Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MiG31 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 It might be slightly too big, but on the finished product it looks fine to me. I'm using it for my single-seat Flankers (already on the Su-37 and an in-progress Airfix Su-27), and it looks the part. In the latter's case, it looks much better than the Airfix part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Looks like you have a lot of work to do. Good luck, you are brave man. Just one thing. Berkut is not called S-47. It is iether Su-47 or S-37. S-37 i prototype code, Su-47 is "production" code. (no, it is not in production). Regards Berkut - Su-47 freak here at ARC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan T. Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Excelente trabajo mi poblano amigo! Great job you are doing! Ivan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Looks like you have a lot of work to do. Good luck, you are brave man. :D Just one thing. Berkut is not called S-47. It is iether Su-47 or S-37. S-37 i prototype code, Su-47 is "production" code. (no, it is not in production). Regards Berkut - Su-47 freak here at ARC. Just to explain further...... (from my Flanker development pages...) Sukhoi uses the letters S & T as internal type designations...... The appellation T is an internal Sukhoi designation indicating a ‘treugol’noe krylo’ - triangular or delta wing. Earlier designs in the "T" series were the T-4 'Sotka' supersonic bomber, the T-8 a fixed-wing prototype of the later swing-wing Su-24 Fencer, the T-8 Su-25 Frogfoot prototype and T10 for the Flanker series. Sukhoi designs with swept wings were allotted a designation beginning with the letter "S" for ‘strelovidnoe krylo’ - swept wing e.g. S-1 & S-22 (Su-7 Fitter), S-32 (Su-17), the new forward-swept wing S-37 etc...... There are anomalies - the T8 Frogfoot was neither triangular nor swept - and the S80 is straight winged - but hey! - nobody said it was perfect. The Forward Swept Wing (FSW) demonstrator was designated in the S series as S-37 - but because this caused some confusion with the already-flying Su-37 Flanker, Sukhoi later changed it (the S-37) to Su-47. As of 2007, the Su-37 is no more (having been re-designated Su-35 when the TVC engines were removed) - it has since crashed - and the Su-47 has not made an appearance for a few years. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) ...and the Su-47 has not made an appearance for a few years. Ken Do you have some info where it is? My dream is to see Berkut flying... BTW: S-32 was original destination of Berkut, it is verson with one engine. S-32 developed into twin engine verson. (S-37) Edited December 16, 2007 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 BTW: S-32 was original destination of Berkut, it is verson with one engine. Are there pics of that? :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Are there pics of that? :blink: Only pics of a model on a desk - in front of Michael Pogosyan..... It was only a design study - no metal was ever cut. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rom Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 waouh!! crazy job in there!!!! I have an Encore flanker...hey ! iwill enjoy it!! hope to see more soon! bye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Likoyan Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 (edited) Hi all you there, Thank you very much for all your comments, they are very usefull. Haneto: I know that the vaccum canopy from Pavla is too big, but I have no other choice, I have been studing the use of the Hasegawa's canopy, but in the end, I dont like how it look. I wish to know what vaccum canopy is the one on your fabulous 1/72 Airfix Su-27, is it and aftermarket, or is it custom made? The news: Side wall's re-construction some dry fitting A first coat of paint for the canopy: (it was neccesary on this stage: I can't paint before and it would be very difficult later) and beggin with the planking process to correct the flat side shape and the "step" of the vaccum canopy: I broked the cockpit left side top end during this process The Su-37 have the more powerfull N-011M radar with phased array antenna, wich has a larger diameter than the original Cassergrain antenna on the Su-27, so all the forward section and radome shape must be rectified. To do this, first I need "close the fuselage", so I turn my eyes to the aft section to work on the raised pannels of the engine covers, the landing wheel wells and the air intakes.... See you soon Abraham Edited December 28, 2007 by Likoyan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan T. Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Increible! Ivan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Very good work indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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