SSgtd6152 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Accurate Miniatures ATE480411 1/48 ATE480411 F-4J Phantom II Category: Aircraft Models 1/48 Lt. Col John Cochran, VMFA-333 Status: Taking Pre-Orders Retail Price: $24.95 Your Price: $18.70 Click here to add this item to your wishlist! Click here to Tell a Friend! Click here to send us a link to a review of this item. (example) PRICE: $18.70 QTY: Continue Shopping Customers who bought this product also purchased ATE480410 F-4C Phantom II $18.70 DML6332 M3A1 Half-Track (3 in 1) $0.05 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Wow, if it was under $20! I am assuming that was from Great Models? Their prices aalways get adjusted. Great news though!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j-basset Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I'll probably go for it, and the F-4C referred below, but what are the odds that it is actually a re-issue of the Monogram F-4C/D and F-4J? Notice that Accurate seems to have re-released some old Monogram stuff of late. Jason C. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
devil505 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I'd go for a new J or S Phantom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yep there the Monogram kits with new decals and perhaps a resin bit or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FAR148 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Say it ain't so! A 1/48 scale kit under $20!!! Re-issue or not still good for the hobby. Steven L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 As mentioned above it is a reissued Monogram kit. Mr. Myers of AM confirmed that on one of the other forums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 interest.....fading Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SSgtd6152 Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 Same ^^^^^^ :wacko: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackThor 06 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 (edited) Oh...just reissued kit...raised panel lines...Oh well, so much for wishing for a new-mold F-4. BTW...did I see that right? Customers who bought this product also purchased DML6332 M3A1 Half-Track (3 in 1) $0.05 BT6 Edited December 24, 2007 by BlackThor 06 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j-basset Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 (edited) I'm still particularly keen in the F-4C. The Monogram 1/48 F-4C/D is a very nice kit, considering the Hasegawa 1/48 F-4C/D also does not comes with recessed panel lines. That would be great source of affordable kits for Hi-Decals' previously announced F-4D MiG Killer sheet. Jason *edited to correct error* Edited December 24, 2007 by j-basset Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yep there the Monogram kits with new decals and perhaps a resin bit or two. Seems that AM is doing what Monogram ProModeler used to do. Interesting shift. I do think the Monogram Phantom is a good kit, I've built a couple. However I don't see it being up to AM's qualit standards. Who knows, maybe they were able to re-work the molds with recessed panel lines (not holding my breath here). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jefropas Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Just to spoil everyone further,its a 72nd scale release, not 48th, thats a typo. Spoke to AM personally at the RHTSA show here in October and everything was 72nd. 48th woudl be cool, but 72nd is a repop on Monogram kit, so if they do a 48th, itll doubtless be R/M too. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Just to spoil everyone further,its a 72nd scale release, not 48th, thats a typo. Spoke to AM personally at the RHTSA show here in October and everything was 72nd. 48th woudl be cool, but 72nd is a repop on Monogram kit, so if they do a 48th, itll doubtless be R/M too.Jeff And that 1/72 ol' Monogram kit is a nearly-exact scaledown of the 1/48th kit. I actually like the 1/72 better as I recall it fitting better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Raised panel lines arent all that bad. In some cases, you can get more accurate results with raised lines, than the often overdone recessed.Let's see what the final release comes with, before bashing it. Jeff What Jeff said ... Besides, the Monogram 1:72 scale F-4J is a nice little kit ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Weasel V Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Didn't Eduard announce a new tooled series of Phantom's for release in late 2008 / early 2009? I could have sworn I read that somewhere. Anyone remember for sure?Dave Dave, yes, you're right. It was back in September: Linky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smithery Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yup, Eduard are going to do the whole Phantom Phamily. I can't wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SSgtd6152 Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 Eduard, Now that is cool. AM is killing me with this re-pop, had I known that is was a re-box I would not have pre-ordered the thing!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impatient Pete Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 The 72nd monogram kit is a beautiful little kit! It's also been OOP for quite a while too. Eduard Phantoms...I'm drooling Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PNW_Modeler Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 One of the first kits I ever built was a Monogram Phantom...the Showtime 100. It was a very nice kit. A little Dymo tape, a good pin vise....you could have this kit looking top notch in no time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Raised panel lines arent all that bad. In some cases, you can get more accurate results with raised lines, than the often overdone recessed.Let's see what the final release comes with, before bashing it. Jeff Ditto what the White Devil said. Besides, Monogram's 1/72 Phantoms are little gems. Who cares if they're raised panel lines? The monogram kit, in EITHER scale, is only slightly less awesome than the hasegawa kits of the similar scales... and for a heck of a lot cheaper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daryl J. Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 After winning what was supposed to be a Monogram AV-8A, it arrived with a 1/72 Monogram Phantom inside the box. It is a very decent kit. It nails the shape of the Phantom as does the 1/48 kit; IIRC no one else does that. Whichever scale AM choose to issue, they're well worth it IMHO. Daryl J. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 One of the first kits I ever built was a Monogram Phantom...the Showtime 100. It was a very nice kit. Ditto, I did this very early in my modeling days and did a very good job of it considering my skills of the day. In this scale, I think the raised lines work just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hegedus Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 And that 1/72 ol' Monogram kit is a nearly-exact scaledown of the 1/48th kit. I actually like the 1/72 better as I recall it fitting better. Nearly, but better-Mongram got the Navy style rear cockpit right in the smaller version, an improvement over the big brother kit. It'd be nice, though, if the reissue contained a pair of outer wing pylons sans tanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 It'd be nice, though, if the reissue contained a pair of outer wing pylons sans tanks. I agree, but I'll venture to say there will be No changes at all to the original molds. Decals, of course, HAVE to be an improvement (no way they can be worse than what Monogram was putting out). Now - why would I pay $18 for an old kit I can get at a show or off EBay for $5? Same reason I buy all those Hasegawa reboxings -- it's a "new" F-4 kit. In a way it's too bad AM is having to take the strategy of reissuing old stuff whose tooling cost is paid for, but charging as if it weren't - like Lindberg. AM was such an innovative company under original ownership (but not very profitable, I understand). I recall speculation that this strategy would provide recovery/seed money to eventually result in new tooling similar to the original AM art. We'll see..... Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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