Kriegsketten Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 And I don't want to go all-out getting all the conversions and then they decided to release it... It happened to me on the 1/48 RF-4E before, now my Black Box conversion is sitting idle somewhere... :) :) Surely C model would sell just as good as the E or J kit right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickeyThickey Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Because they don't like you, and want to make your life miserable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 While there about it they could do a RF-8 as well! Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 While there about it they could do a RF-8 as well!Julien With you there. Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I'd love a Charlie model and the recce version. I especially want to build the Sundowners MiG Killer and a Cuban Missle Crisis RF-8A. Chappie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kriegsketten Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 I'd love a Charlie model and the recce version. I especially want to build the Sundowners MiG Killer and a Cuban Missle Crisis RF-8A.Chappie Which decal set covers the MiG Killer? Aeromaster or Cutting Edge? Or they do the same jet? That's precisely what I want to build - have been looking around the markings. The problem is the Conversion part - got all the complete Aires detail for the E, but now I need to get a C cockpit. And the only conversion around is Cutting Edge and I don't seem to see anyone carrying that set other than CE themselves... Or would simply doing your own conversion is not that hard at all? C'mon Hasegawa - Get the C out now PUHLEASE! Cheers, Lawrence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I have the Cutting Edge cockpit and conversion. You need to remove the Bull Pup hump on the spine and the nose is different. I should just start building it now so you will get your wish! http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Rev1...8419/rev252.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Going all out and getting all the conversions wouldn't solve the problem anyways. You are still faced with having to modify the forward windscreen and this involves cutting the front pane completely out and replacing it. If someone would just make a vac or clear resin one we would all be good to go. Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Which decal set covers the MiG Killer? Aeromaster or Cutting Edge? Or they do the same jet? That's precisely what I want to build - have been looking around the markings. The problem is the Conversion part - got all the complete Aires detail for the E, but now I need to get a C cockpit. And the only conversion around is Cutting Edge and I don't seem to see anyone carrying that set other than CE themselves... Or would simply doing your own conversion is not that hard at all? C'mon Hasegawa - Get the C out now PUHLEASE! Cheers, Lawrence The Sundowners MiG Killer is on sheet CED48211 and this matches up with the Osprey book. The other F-8 MiG Killer sheet, CED48212, has major errors in pilots names, and BuNos. If Hasegawa dose not do a Charlie model soon, I'll get the CE conversion. I've never had ordering problems. Don't know if you know this or not, but there were 5 F-8C MiG Killers- 1 from VF-111 and 4 from VF-24. I have a great book on the F-8 that even gives the loadouts for a majority of the MiG Killers. I had never heard of the radar-guided AIM-9C until I read that book! I've put in a request for F-8 MiG Killers on the FoxOne thread. Chappie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I believe Aeromaster also has the MiG killer scheme, although I cannot vouch for it's accuracy Someone else solved the windscreen issue by putting shims in between the resin nose halves. While it may not be totally correct, it eliminated the step between the narrower nose and the styrene fuselage and also eliminated the windscreen issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Maybe the mold isn't set up for a new nose/windscreen, or the wing without the hump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I believe Aeromaster also has the MiG killer scheme, although I cannot vouch for it's accuracySomeone else solved the windscreen issue by putting shims in between the resin nose halves. While it may not be totally correct, it eliminated the step between the narrower nose and the styrene fuselage and also eliminated the windscreen issue I am not sure what you mean by "eliminated the windscreen issue." Without the IR dome you are left with a square hole on the lower portion of the windscreen as that area was metal. I don't even think you could just fill it in with something "clear" and blend it in so that it appears seamless. IMO, you would have to either have a new forward windscreen or cut out the kit center pane and scratch a new one, carefully shaping and gluing in place. Some advice if I may BEFORE you cut the kit center wing section out to do a C model. Take a serious look at cutting/sanding away the kit Bullpup hump plastic as the resin replacement is too high, IF you plan on showing wings lowered as in my case. I had to resort to a lot of sanding so that it matched up to the kit fuselage height. If you are doing wings raised then it's not an issue. If you do cut away the kit plastic there will be a hole to fill and reshape. Either way it's work but you at least won't have to cut the wings and deal with fit there either. If you mess it up you always have the resin parts for backup. HTH. Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I forgot about the IR Dome- now I need to find that article and see how he handled it. This guy had a pretty ingenious way to remove the IR dome http://www.carrierbuilders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=99 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PNW_Modeler Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Because they don't like you, and want to make your life miserable. Man those guys are MEAN! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Got a few F-8 sheets in the plans. Just need a little more info on the VF-24 Mig Killers and a waiting on some VF-111 info. Anyone that has material to contribute, please don't hesitate! BTW, The VF-24 Mig Killer squadron plaque plates were entrusted to me when the squadron dis-established and currently reside in my collection! -brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kriegsketten Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 Thanks for the information guys! Looks like it's tricky to perform the conversion on the airframe by yourself - judging from the build. But still do-able, not for the faint-hearted. Is the C nose THAT narrow - I'm surprised CE didn't include the front of the Canopy since the kit's wouldn't fit anyway? I'll try to get the MiG killer decals when I get the chance. The sun burst markings are just too bright that I gotta put some shades one! :D Cheers, Lawrence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fury Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Here's a little preview of something I've been working on: They're masters for an early model crusader conversion that I was working on for 3rd Wire, but with the current state of affairs with the company, I'll probably have to find some other biz to add them to their catalog. If anyone's interested, drop me a line. The sets were mastered with a ton of help from Superheat, a former Crusader driver and expert of everything involving the last of the gunfighters. Brian, I promise my first born to you if you release some Crusader sheets! Thomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) Wow looking good there Thomas. I would definatly be up for about 6 of those Crusader noses if anyone is going to do them. I have 2 Cobra sets for the F-8C + VF-84 decals, and 3 C&H sets for the RF-8. None of these sets does a correct nose, so it will mean sanding etc to get it right. For those looking Albatross did a sheet with some French Crusaders on that had a set for an RF-8A during the Cuban Crisis. Julien ps. Superheat is "da man" when it comes to this sort of thing, his pics helped me get the nose right when I did my 1/72 F-8C a while ago. Edited January 30, 2008 by Julien (UK) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenshb Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 So if I get this right - the windshield of the A-D models was actually narrower than on the E models - in addition to the centre panel having a larger transparent area? Jens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kriegsketten Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 So if I get this right - the windshield of the A-D models was actually narrower than on the E models - in addition to the centre panel having a larger transparent area?Jens Looking good, Thomas! Hope you'll find a good company to carry this product soon! I'd be eager to get a set for me SunDowner! Btw, I realised some VF-111 C models have a bag of mixed parts - Bull hump on the back (like the E), and what looked like a base for the probe in front of the canopy. But the nose looked like a regular early type. The BuNos are 147054 and 148703. Both with "AJ" on the fin. Are these regular C models? Cheers, Lawrence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koen L Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Looking good, Thomas! Hope you'll find a good company to carry this product soon! I'd be eager to get a set for me SunDowner!Btw, I realised some VF-111 C models have a bag of mixed parts - Bull hump on the back (like the E), and what looked like a base for the probe in front of the canopy. But the nose looked like a regular early type. The BuNos are 147054 and 148703. Both with "AJ" on the fin. Are these regular C models? Cheers, Lawrence Sounds like F-8H's to me. Koen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timvkampen Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 This is what I came up with using Cutting Edge: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....howtopic=117516 Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Tim, Great model! I missed that whole thread. Didn't you have to do some surgery to open the canopy? Isn't the Hasegawa canopy molded closed? Chappie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuji Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Here's a little preview of something I've been working on: They're masters for an early model crusader conversion that I was working on for 3rd Wire, but with the current state of affairs with the company, I'll probably have to find some other biz to add them to their catalog. If anyone's interested, drop me a line. The sets were mastered with a ton of help from Superheat, a former Crusader driver and expert of everything involving the last of the gunfighters. Brian, I promise my first born to you if you release some Crusader sheets! Thomas These look pretty awesome, I'd talk to Mike Reeves or WolfPack Designs, I'd buy a set or two. Looking good, Thomas! Hope you'll find a good company to carry this product soon! I'd be eager to get a set for me SunDowner!Btw, I realised some VF-111 C models have a bag of mixed parts - Bull hump on the back (like the E), and what looked like a base for the probe in front of the canopy. But the nose looked like a regular early type. The BuNos are 147054 and 148703. Both with "AJ" on the fin. Are these regular C models? Cheers, Lawrence Those are F-8Hs, F-8Ds that were upgraded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuji Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Got a few F-8 sheets in the plans. Just need a little more info on the VF-24 Mig Killers and a waiting on some VF-111 info. Anyone that has material to contribute, please don't hesitate!BTW, The VF-24 Mig Killer squadron plaque plates were entrusted to me when the squadron dis-established and currently reside in my collection! -brian Count me in for some SunDowner markings. Nargi's MiG killer and maybe Tooter Teague's jet. Hoser Satrapa's aircraft is a MUST! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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