rjwood_uk Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 just watched last weeks episode of Ross Kemp in Afganistan and near the begining it showed an apache. not sure if it was british army or us but it had the radome on top. i thought they didnt really need them out in desert theaters? Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 US Longbows were in theater as of JAN/FEB 07. There's definitely a use for them in OEF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Longbows maybe, but not the radars. US machines have had the radomes removed. There is a bit more of a use for them in Afghanistan than Iraq, but not much. If its got a radar on it, it is a good bet that it is British, although I'm not quite sure why they're keeping their radars on either. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I heard that the weight of the Longbows was a problem for OEF mountain ops. They prefer the A models in the hills (supposedly). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 You're lookin at 1000lbs of dead weight with the radar on board. Makes hot and high situations in the mountains of Afghanistan a tad touchy, if you get my meaning. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CW4 Erick Swanberg Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) On Medevac missions in Afghanistan we would regularly leave the "A" and "D"(without radar) model Apaches behind and they weren't even carrying a full load. The only a/c that were able to keep up with us consistently were the "W" Cobra's from the Marines. I can only imagine the power management issues they are having with the radar installed. Erick Edited January 31, 2008 by CW4 Erick Swanberg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 On Medevac missions in Afghanistan we would regularly leave the "A" and "D"(without radar) model Apaches behind and they weren't even carrying a full load. The only a/c that were able to keep up with us consistently were the "W" Cobra's from the Marines. I can only imagine the power management issues they are having with the radar installed. Erick They don't pay you guys enough. Did you ever operate near Blessing or NE Kunar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave2 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 This is why I absolutely love coming to this forum everyday. I just never know when I'm gonna read this kind of real helicopter pilot stuff. It is just a pleasure to read the opinions from you guys and to get your insight into how things really are and some of the considerations most of us will never be privy to. I love it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 On Medevac missions in Afghanistan we would regularly leave the "A" and "D"(without radar) model Apaches behind and they weren't even carrying a full load. The only a/c that were able to keep up with us consistently were the "W" Cobra's from the Marines. I can only imagine the power management issues they are having with the radar installed. :P Erick Erick, I'd be curious to see the loadout comparison between the -64s and -1Ws, not to mention fuel on board, etc. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Erick,I'd be curious to see the loadout comparison between the -64s and -1Ws, not to mention fuel on board, etc. Jon The 64 escorts usually came in with 2 Hellfires and a rocket pod, asymmetrical loadout. I'm not sure about the fuel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Whiskeys were probably carrying a single Hellfire rack with 2 missiles, and two 7-shot pods. Of course, we can speculate on internal loads, but I'd be willing to bet the -64s were carrying significantly more than the Snakes if the 1Ws could keep up and the -64s couldnt. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Jon, when is that Squadron title you did coming out again? Are you still planning a decal sheet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 April and yes. :D Now to get our birds painted so I can include those markings on the sheet! Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchf4 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 You're one busy beaver! How do you manage to do all the stuff you do and still find time to fly??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 when i said "i didnt think they were using them" i did mean the radars, not the actual apache. im guessing it was an english bird as Ross Kemp was with the 1st battalion with the East Anglia Regement (vikings) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 You're one busy beaver! How do you manage to do all the stuff you do and still find time to fly??? It does get a little hectic around here at times! With the new book in the works, several models building and who knows what else, flying even once a week is a challenge! Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 One interesting point on watching this on TV was the Apache hiting a compund with 30mm fire. When they later took the compund the 30mm fire had very little effect on the 3 foot thick baked mud walls it was made from. The 30mm round had basically knocked bits of the front but that was about all I know some guys whom I have spoken to have said they are having to use anti-tank missiles to breach these places. Was some good shots of the Apache in action though. Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 was that in the 2nd episode? havnt watched that one yet. look forward to the new one on monday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 just watched it. some pretty impressive stuff. good old boys out there ay! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CW4 Erick Swanberg Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Got to love the Abad valley Blessing was one of our hotspots, got shot at several times in that valley. They don't pay you guys enough.Did you ever operate near Blessing or NE Kunar? IIRC they had several loadouts, between TOW's, 19 shot rocket tubes, dual 7 shot tubes on the same wing it varied quite a bit. Erick Erick,I'd be curious to see the loadout comparison between the -64s and -1Ws, not to mention fuel on board, etc. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PBoilermaker Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Got to love the Abad valley Blessing was one of our hotspots, got shot at several times in that valley. Did you know Leeann Tweeden made it to Blessing with the SMA?? I always used to joke that she was going to make it to Naray but she actually made it as far as Blessing. I'm jealous. http://www.blackanthem.com/News/living/Cou...n_printer.shtml Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike H. Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 What decal sheet? What units? Scale I assume is 1/48. Mike H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 What decal sheet? What units?Scale I assume is 1/48. Mike H. It will be 48th. The rest of it is classified at present. I could tell you but then I'd.... You get the idea. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 just wondering if anyone watched tonights episode. did anyone notice Ross call the F-15sthat performed the air strike an F-16? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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