jjuwana Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Guys, what is the squadron of the F-18 featured in the "Independence Day" movie ? Is it fictional or for real ? Is there any decal producer carry the decal for this F-18 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I think it was the Black Nights. Which is (or was) a real squadron out of El Toro and I think later Marimar. I *THINK* they are VMFA-314 but I could be wrong there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 That's right, it was VMFA-314, Black Knights. If i recall correctly, Will Smith and Harry Connick actually say something about the Black Knights, some kind of chant i believe. I'm not sure if they are still a squadron or not. It seems like there is a sheet out there for that squadron, I believe it was kit decals for the monogram kit at one time...but don't quote me on that. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedHeadKevin Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 But what squadron were the USAF Hornets, or the RAF Vipers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josh1971 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Don't forget those Tomcats in the background, and the Eagles escorting Air Force one- those were probably Black Knights as well. Oh, and Air Force One as well- that's probably a VMFA-314 jet too. :) The best parts of the movie, though, were the star wars-like notion that you can down *ANYTHING* 15 miles wide with a handful of missiles, sans artillery, tanks, BOMBS, etc., and most funny of all to me was that alien technology could be linked up with a macintosh computer. jb Edited February 5, 2008 by Josh1971 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJam Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 ...and most funny of all to me was that alien technology could be linked up with a macintosh computer. Don't you know that macintosh computer is alien technology? :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josh1971 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Don't you know that macintosh computer is alien technology? :blink: I kind of suspected that for many years- that movie just proved it. And best of all, what was the mac good for when hooking up with alien technology? Planting a virus... :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GA.modelmaker Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 better yet what squdaron is the isrealies hornets. when they get ready for the wide world attack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeC Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 But what squadron were the ... RAF Vipers? Looked like 43 Sqn to me (B&W checks), but it was a long time since I saw Independence Day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SSgtd6152 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Not sure who the RAF vipers belonged to.............probably VMGR-352!Dave El Toro was in the Desert too......... Edited February 5, 2008 by SSgtd6152 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 heck, weren't the alien fighters Black Knights too ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yeehah1 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) 06-02-08 Hate to be hte nay-sayer here..but it was the other way around....the alien tech locked into our tech...providing a back-door for our tech to ...and this is stressed several times in the movie ... temporaily shut down the shields of the big ship and the fighters ( trickle down effect..as the shields were, for some reason, controlled from above). The Jeff Goldblum character is stated as being a contrary genius wasting his time away in a huff working for the satelite company. Being a genius, he obviusly figured a way to use the alien tech against the aliens. Again..clearly stated that the virus might not even work, and if it did it might only work for seconds or minutes...that was the window of oppurtunity and the reason why, I would assume, they flew a nuke up into the mother-ship to prevent them from fixing things and sending re-enforcements. As for the remark about the mac thing...it would have been far, far worse had they tried using a Windows system for the uplink....blue screen of death= end of the world. And, given that Star Trek has put people permanently off techno-babble, they, the writers, probably decided against explaining every tech nuance as to how exactly we were able to capitalise upon some bit of alien stupidity in making assumptions given that it MIGHT slow down the action. People said, hey, we don't need every scientifical thing explained to us, just tell us it goes/works/fires and we'll be happy...but when they DON'T expalin every scientifical thing in detail, they get derided for stretching credibility. But it is a popcorn-muncher blockbuster sci-fi movie..it's not and never was meant ot be 2001:A Space Oddessy. Also, before I forget....they didn't bring down the city-killer ships with missles ( they did try, yes, and that was dumb)...they brought them down by causing a power surge back through the primary weapon system once that system had been engaged. If a missle stuck the right place at the right time..boom through feedback...if not, then fly a fighter jet loaded with fuel up into the primary weapon just as it is about to discharge...boom through feedback. (it's called dramatic effect) Granted, the whole thing with everyone on the planet flying F-18's and F-16's was a bit lazy and dumb, but hey...that's the kind of movie it was. A dumb, don;t take it seriously, pop-corn movie. Didn't I hear somewhere that a sequel had been mooted or something??? Liam Edited February 6, 2008 by yeehah1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sunliner Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 The aliens would have won if they had been flying Twee.....aarrrghhh!! POST INTERRUPTED BY TWEET OVERLOAD SENSOR v.1 THANKYOUVEDDYMUCH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedHeadKevin Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) OF course the aliens used Macs. The Earth Mac Users finally convinced them that their alien computer system (although it helped with interstellar travel) was bad, and that they were stupid for using it. Steve Jobs also convinced them that the ship would never have crashed at Roswell if its computer was a Mac. Back on the alien homeworld, their economy was ruined because of the high cost of importing Apple products, but damn if their family picture albums didn't look good. So, the aliens decided that they needed to go to other planets to find software which was compatible with their Macs, and when they got to Earth, conveniently enough, they found it, and Jeff Goldblum (can anyone even remember his character's name? Or was it just "Jeff Goldblum as himself?") could upload a virus. Naturally, he had to find the one virus which would actually affect a Mac, even an alien one. Thus, the world was saved, and he smoked a cigar in the pressurized oxygen environment of an alien fighter. Edited February 6, 2008 by RedHeadKevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neeko Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Don't forget about the cackling skull and crossbones on the aliens' screens once the virus was uploaded... Priceless! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
svaz Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 06-02-08And, given that Star Trek has put people permanently off techno-babble... Ya know, if they had simply reversed the polarity on the Sidewinder seeker heads and phase-shift the Hornets, we wouldn't have needed no stink'n Mac. svaz Proud owner of a Classic & SE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 i know everytime we used Macs at school, it brought our whole system down, so that part of the movie i believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WGP Klaus Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 El Toro was in the Desert too......... take out the orange groves and what do you have? desert!! so they were partially correct? :D - Missing MCAS El Toro and Tustin - Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 take out the orange groves and what do you have? desert!! so they were partially correct? - Missing MCAS El Toro and Tustin - Me too ... Gregg PS The orange groves are all gone ... Development and Progress ... or something like that ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjuwana Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 Guys, one more question about the movie, can you use an air to air missiles for ground targets? Also can you use a harpoon on air targets ? Regards JJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Well, I read that back in Vietnam, an AIM-9 was used to hit a truck ... Don't know about the AGM used as AAMs though ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Roberts Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 For the ultimate laugh, when the movie came out there was a cheap novel of the movie and I read the last page in a checkout or something but the Randy Quaid character instead of flying his Hornet into the weapon and destroying the bad guys flys his.....crop dusting Stearman in a vertical climb that would make a Fokker D VII (let alone a Viper) proud into the weapon. HEY GUYS REMEMBER ME! Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThudDriver Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Don't knock the MAC. At least it worked. (in the movie that is) If he had MS's new VISTA operating system they'd still be tethered to the mother ship waiting for it to open.. Not a VISTA fan. MS sold me an operating system complete with MS's virus... Independence day was a good popcorn muncher movie nonetheless..... ThudDriver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Also can you use a harpoon on air targets ? No, but the Hellfire missile carried by the Apache has a limited A2A capability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjuwana Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hellfire has a limited A2A capability ? Against what I wonder ? Another helicopter ? How about Maverick ? Does it solely for the A2G attack only ? Can it be used to sink the ship ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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