stsok9 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 What mods would be necessary to turn the Academy 1/32 F-16CJ into an IAF F-16. Can one be built straight out of the box, minus the decals? If not is there a conversion available. Wanting to build one obviously. Thanks in advance. Jason Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adats Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 F-16I or Blk. 40 F-16D's? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stsok9 Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 F-16I or Blk. 40 F-16D's? Doesn't matter, just looking for an accurate build that takes the least amount of conversion (FUNDS) to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wizard_rkt Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 What mods would be necessary to turn the Academy 1/32 F-16CJ into an IAF F-16. Can one be built straight out of the box, minus the decals? If not is there a conversion available. Wanting to build one obviously. Thanks in advance.Jason Brown IsraCast is reissuing their 1/32 F-16C Block 30/40 conversion kit soon. They will most likely reissue the 1/32 F-16C decals, too. I can ask my contcat at IsraCast/IsraDecal and find out for sure when. I have a TAM F-16C that is awaiting the other conversion kit: 1/32 F-16C Block 40 Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 You can’t really make an IAF F-16 out of the CJ kit because they don’t fly Block 50s. The easiest to make is an IDF Block 40, which still requires some mods. Isracast made a conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Ditto Dave. The very least you need the IsraCast conversion and decals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I converted the Tamiya kit to an F-16C Block 40 using the Isracast kit, it is in the ARC gallery. Only real problem were the wheels, the conversion supplies the required bits but mine were too damaged to use. And someone on ARC of course noticed this right away :-) Somthing to note that the conversion doesn't tell you is that the Israeli Block 40s have all-black cockpits. Let me know if you require any reference material. Marcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wizard_rkt Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I converted the Tamiya kit to an F-16C Block 40 using the Isracast kit, it is in the ARC gallery. Only real problem were the wheels, the conversion supplies the required bits but mine were too damaged to use. And someone on ARC of course noticed this right away :-)Somthing to note that the conversion doesn't tell you is that the Israeli Block 40s have all-black cockpits. Let me know if you require any reference material. Marcel I actually could use the reference material on the IAF F-16C Block 40. All black cockpit, huh? Sounds kinda cool looking. Thanks! Also> Is it OK to use the wide-mouth intake for a F-16C Block 52 for, let's say, and HAF F-16c block 52? Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I am no viper expert, but the December 1995 Finescale had an f-16C IAF conversion in 1/48. Now i know the CJ is more advanced which would mean backdating, but the conversion was relatively simple and scratchbuilt. Don't know if you are into the spine/CFTs and such but it looked like a standard F-16C with a longer parachute protrusion under the fin, and thus was relatively simple. i will throw it back to the Viper Experts now. Semper Fi, Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) Black cockpits would be due to the Night Vision Goggle system that the IAF uses. Their F-15I pits are the same way. Older jets delivered with gray pits tend to remain gray. Edited May 6, 2008 by Jay Chladek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I actually could use the reference material on the IAF F-16C Block 40. All black cockpit, huh? Sounds kinda cool looking. Thanks! Also> Is it OK to use the wide-mouth intake for a F-16C Block 52 for, let's say, and HAF F-16c block 52? Ron Israeli F-16C Block 40s have the wide mouth intake, so you'll be fine there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I actually could use the reference material on the IAF F-16C Block 40. All black cockpit, huh? Sounds kinda cool looking. Thanks!Also> Is it OK to use the wide-mouth intake for a F-16C Block 52 for, let's say, and HAF F-16c block 52? Ron just sent you a message requesting e-mail so i can send over the pics... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Also> Is it OK to use the wide-mouth intake for a F-16C Block 52 for, let's say, and HAF F-16c block 52?Ron No, All F-16's with a Pratt Engine have the Small intake, except the Vista, and that intake was a custom build. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iaf-man Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 All black cockpit, huh? Sounds kinda cool looking. Thanks!Ron Hi Ron, I personally don't like the black cockpits-you can hardly tell each feature from another. The seats remain with grey frame+that green O2 bottle Isaac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wizard_rkt Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hi Ron,I personally don't like the black cockpits-you can hardly tell each feature from another. The seats remain with grey frame+that green O2 bottle Isaac Thanks! I am still in need of that IsraCast F-16C Block 40 release. Ok, black tub, gray seat. Got it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I don't have my refs in front of me, but I think the floor is still grey too, not black. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iaf-man Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I don't have my refs in front of me, but I think the floor is still grey too, not black. I suspect it too,the book says black,but doesn't provide clear photos. There's a glimpse of a side panel that looks grey. Isaac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I don't have my refs in front of me, but I think the floor is still grey too, not black. Correct Dave, the floor is Grey as are the rudder pedals, now on the early Blk 40's the sides (kick panels) were Grey, but now they are painted Black. Seat rails are Black, seats are Grey, parachute pack/shoulder assembly are Black, and Black sheepskin. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 What about Block 30 D's? Are the tubs the same? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 http://www.arcair.com/Fea1/501-600/Fea585_F-16_Moore/00.shtm Again, it would require backdating but you have the wide mouth covered as it comes with the kit. Semper Fi, Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 What about Block 30 D's? Are the tubs the same? Blk 30's have all grey cockpits. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I don't have my refs in front of me but IIRC the IADF Block 30s all had the beefed up gear & bulged main gear doors - but not the relocated landing lights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iaf-man Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Just read at the new IAF magazine-the F-16A/B are cleared to carry the Sidewinder 9M,all other types will follow.They are cheaper than the Python and can be carried on several stations,while Python can't. Isaac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruud Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hoi, I thought that all of the F-16D-30 for the IAF had the heavier gear and bulged doors while the F-16C-30's had the regular gear and some even had the small intakes still. Just going off of memory... for what ever that is worth lately. later Ruud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iaf-man Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hoi,I thought that all of the F-16D-30 for the IAF had the heavier gear and bulged doors while the F-16C-30's had the regular gear and some even had the small intakes still. Just going off of memory... for what ever that is worth lately. later Ruud You are correct. See posts here for recent shots: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....p;#entry1385838 http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....howtopic=152477 Isaac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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