Harold Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 How much interest would there be in a F-86H conversion kit for the Kinetic 1/32 scale kit? I know there was one for the Hasegawa lit. However, this one would be far more accurate (much better castings) with a cockpit that actually goes with the kit. We would need at least 300 purchases to make it worth doing. Cheers, Harold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Why doesn't anyone do one of these in 1/48 scale? I'm baffled that a conversion has never come out for it. I would imagine a lot more of them would sell in 1/48 scale than in 1/32 scale. I've wanted a non-Collect Aire Hog for a long time. I think it's the best looking Sabre variant. Harold, this is not a knock on your work or idea. I'm just wondering out loud about the reasons one isn't available in 1/48. I didn't mean to hijack the thread. Sorry about that. Frustration sometimes gets the better of me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Would the conversion include decals? For me, conversions to non-kitted versions without available decals aren't much use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwood_uk Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Thats a good point Dave. To be honest, with the price of kits now days, i doubt there are 300 people on here that could afford it lol. Im sure It would be a good seller though. Not for me at the moment though. Maybe in a few years time. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 Why doesn't anyone do one of these in 1/48 scale? I'm baffled that a conversion has never come out for it. I would imagine a lot more of them would sell in 1/48 scale than in 1/32 scale. I've wanted a non-Collect Aire Hog for a long time. I think it's the best looking Sabre variant.Harold, this is not a knock on your work or idea. I'm just wondering out loud about the reasons one isn't available in 1/48. I didn't mean to hijack the thread. Sorry about that. Frustration sometimes gets the better of me! The main reason for the 1/32 in this case, is that the resin maker does 1/32 kits. I would rather do it in 1/48 scale myself. If I can get the F-86K off the ground, I want to do the H in 1/48 and possibly the CAC AVON version too. If the slatted wing resin set shows up and is a good one, well, the possibilities are endless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonB Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Hey Harold, Have you ever considered doing an ALQ-131 jammer in 1/32? I don't know of anyone else that does one other than Flightpath, and their stuff isn't the easiest to get and uses PE for some of the details, which I really don't care for. I'm sure a lot of the guys with Tamiya F-16's in the stash would like to have one. Cheers Jason Edited June 28, 2008 by jburch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CreepyGuy Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 The main reason for the 1/32 in this case, is that the resin maker does 1/32 kits.I would rather do it in 1/48 scale myself. If I can get the F-86K off the ground, I want to do the H in 1/48 and possibly the CAC AVON version too. If the slatted wing resin set shows up and is a good one, well, the possibilities are endless. I am really hoping that there would be an "H" model conversion in 1/48 as well as slats for the Sabre family. I would even love to see a 1/48 FJ-3 Fury conversion.....Just wishing.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Hey Harold,Have you ever considered doing an ALQ-131 jammer in 1/32? I don't know of anyone else that does one other than Flightpath, and their stuff isn't the easiest to get and uses PE for some of the details, which I really don't care for. I'm sure a lot of the guys with Tamiya F-16's in the stash would like to have one. Cheers Jason That is a bit out of my interest. I am trying to stay in the '50's to early 70's stuff. Doug at Royale Resin is the one to talk to. http://www.royaleresin.net/index.html Or DR Pepper Resins http://www.drpepperresins.com/ Edited June 28, 2008 by Harold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonB Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Thanks Harold, I shot DP an e-mail, I don't think Doug at RR does 1/32 stuff. Cheers Jason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 Thanks Harold,I shot DP an e-mail, I don't think Doug at RR does 1/32 stuff. Cheers Jason Twist his arm. He does some of the best casting I have ever seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Why doesn't anyone do one of these in 1/48 scale? I'm baffled that a conversion has never come out for it. I would imagine a lot more of them would sell in 1/48 scale than in 1/32 scale. I've wanted a non-Collect Aire Hog for a long time. I think it's the best looking Sabre variant.Harold, this is not a knock on your work or idea. I'm just wondering out loud about the reasons one isn't available in 1/48. I didn't mean to hijack the thread. Sorry about that. Frustration sometimes gets the better of me! I'd say you'd probably sell a 1/48 conversion 10:1 against a 1/32, especially if you included a decal. I happen to know someone who does decal artwork J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DMunne Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I'de love a F-86H. Always loved the look of the Navy QF-86H's. I've got the C&H conversion, but it's not easy. How much are we looking at? Not that it matters, I'll still get one. Crash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 If you released a 1/48 F-86H conversion, my Collect Aire kit would be so outta here! Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Incaroad Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I echo the NEED for a 1/48th conversion as well! And what would that entail an entire fuselage to make it work right, even in 1/32nd right? China Lake had a bunch as FSAT drones that I need to do... One with the GORJE test phase is number one!!! Cheers, Larry McCarley 21045 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 I echo the NEED for a 1/48th conversion as well! And what would that entail an entire fuselage to make it work right, even in 1/32nd right?China Lake had a bunch as FSAT drones that I need to do... One with the GORJE test phase is number one!!! Cheers, Larry McCarley 21045 Yes, the conversion would HAVE to be a full fuselage. Didn't someone do one some time ago in 1/48 scale, or was it a single scratchbiult? I would have to farm out my casting on anything that long. But, I would have to do the masters first. Let's see how the K goes and then I really want to look closely at the H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Incaroad Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Yes, the conversion would HAVE to be a full fuselage. Didn't someone do one some time ago in 1/48 scale, or was it a single scratchbiult?I would have to farm out my casting on anything that long. But, I would have to do the masters first. Let's see how the K goes and then I really want to look closely at the H. Sounds Great Harold. Thanks for considering it at least. What wings would you make it for don't know what kit has the correct one for it. Does the ProModeler F-86D have the right 6:3 wing sans the 12" tip? The Ginter book is Fabulous I just received it and have been looking at what it would take to do the fuselage myself. I have to make one for my Brother some day too as Joseph McConnell died on his birthday... He always tells me about that anyway... Don't know how I could help but if I can let me know! Cheers, Larry McCarley 21045 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 http://www.candhaerominiatures.com/catalog/f86h.htmC&H Aero miniatures F-86H Conversion Kit Intended for the Hasegawa F-86F-40 kit (1/32 Scale) - Two fuselage halves - Intake, cockpit and canopy modifications - Horizontal stabilizers - Rudder - Forward landing gear door - Ejection seat - Other small parts needed to complete the conversion - Decals for two aircraft: U.S.A.F. and Massachusetts Air Guard (decals can be purchased separately for $12.00) Price: $60.00 order form: http://www.candhaerominiatures.com/orderform.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- V.P. Thanks for the link. I have that set. It needs a lot of work to make it presentable. You would have to scratchbuilt a cockpit for it. And the seat needs a lot TLC. However, there are no other H's in that scale. I was thinking of one that would be for the Kinetic kit and would have a good 'pit. It was just a thought. It may be too much evolved to make it worthwhile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Colvin Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I would be all over it, and yes I have the C&H set it is about half built and it does need a little help. That is why it is in the box for now lol.How about D/L Sabre fuselage to mount to the hasegawa/kinetic kit. I know there was an old ID vac. I have several. There are shape issues with it for sure but it is a starting point. i would be happy to donate one for the cause. Perhaps a FJ3 Fury to kit bash with the old hasegawa kit. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 I would be all over it, and yes I have the C&H set it is about half built and it does need a little help. That is why it is in the box for now lol.How about D/L Sabre fuselage to mount to the hasegawa/kinetic kit. I know there was an old ID vac. I have several. There are shape issues with it for sure but it is a starting point. i would be happy to donate one for the cause. Perhaps a FJ3 Fury to kit bash with the old hasegawa kit. Rob With some work, Hasegawa wings would be fairly close for the D, the Kinetic wings would not. As far as the FJ2/3, it would need everything. Not much could be used from the F-86. I suppose the wings could be scribed for the wing fold is about all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Colvin Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 You are right. Now, kinetic lists a dash 40 kit to be released. I know you would have to reduce the cord and lenght to get a D wing. I thought the L had the full span 40 wing? The Fj 3 well I can dream right. If you decide to go there and you need that vac fuselage let me know. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 You are right. Now, kinetic lists a dash 40 kit to be released. I know you would have to reduce the cord and lenght to get a D wing. I thought the L had the full span 40 wing? The Fj 3 well I can dream right. If you decide to go there and you need that vac fuselage let me know.Rob Yep, the L had the "6 3" wings with a 12 inch extension. The instruments were different along with antenna and scoops added. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 The Ginter book is Fabulous Larry, Be very skeptical about any "scale" drawings in the Ginter books - especially those from the North American factory!! Harold, I think you're being kind when you say the C+H conversion needs "a little" help. Like the majority of responders to your question, I'd pass on a 1/32 conversion, but jump on one in 1/48. Jenning's decals would be terrific companions. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Larry,Be very skeptical about any "scale" drawings in the Ginter books - especially those from the North American factory!! Harold, I think you're being kind when you say the C+H conversion needs "a little" help. Like the majority of responders to your question, I'd pass on a 1/32 conversion, but jump on one in 1/48. Jenning's decals would be terrific companions. Gene K You are correct, It needs a LOT of work.... I know how tough it is to do anything in that scale (or any scale) in resin. So, I wanted to give them a bit of a break. No one else stepped up to the plate. I was seeing if there was enough of the large scale interest to get one from the best pattern and resin caster to do it for the Kinetic kit. I just don't see it now though. He told me it would take qt least 300 castings just to break even. Not going to happen. If I can get enough interest in the 1/48 K version, and I can at least break even, I will look a bit closer at a 1/48 scale H. Thanks for all the input. Harold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doctorpepper Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Twist his arm. He does some of the best casting I have ever seen. Harold, you do some of the finest masterings I have ever seen - easily on par with Aires and Avionix at the moment i understand from them the ALQ-131 they want is the deep version, need to find a good scale drawing/model of that to work on it. drPepper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Harold,you do some of the finest masterings I have ever seen - easily on par with Aires and Avionix at the moment i understand from them the ALQ-131 they want is the deep version, need to find a good scale drawing/model of that to work on it. drPepper Thanks for the nice comments, Harold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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