leverancier Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I've started last week, and I think this build will take a tad longer than the Tornado, which only took 11 days. The paintjob will be a lot easier, but I have a few more detail stuff and a little adjustment to the kit parts. MAW decals, F-4Dable models chaff&flare dispenser and GPS antenna, MK-1 exhaust nozzles, Aires wheel bays, BB Naces seats( I know the pic shows quick boost seats, but I needed naces so I ordered the black box seats, so if annyone needs the quick boosts, let me know), and I have eduard mesh screens and placards on the way. I'm going to build it on landing approach, I just don't know yet what I'm going to do with the base: landing strip or carrier deck. The progress so far: With the BB seats: I extended the landing gear and added some tubing and wiring. My guide: I discovered a little book shop nearby that has an astounding collection of hundreds of thousands of aviation books, including every daco book. needless to say I got out a lot lighter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie Cheslo Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Wow! Great detailing of the landing gear struts and the wheel bay! That tubing you used for the extended oleo struts is very realistic. What type of tubingl did you use for them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I'm going to build it on landing approach, I just don't know yet what I'm going to do with the base: landing strip or carrier deck. Since it is VERY rare to see a VMFA(AW) -D at the boat...go with the "landings strip". I'd also recommend a fine later of sand across it too. Spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Since it is VERY rare to see a VMFA(AW) -D at the boat...go with the "landings strip". I'd also recommend a fine later of sand across it too.Spongebob I didn't know that, I used to think every carrier had a Marines squadron on board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 STUNNING start to this project of yours... Look ofrward to following this as it looks so exciting.. HOLMES. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastern Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Those landing gears and the fore bay look very impressive! I suspect it would be one more outstanding build we'll see one day in the critique coner. Nice progress here, go ahead, mate! Cheers! Alexander. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 Little question about the loadout: when off the boat, does the ordnance have the fire protective coating? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ski6502 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Little question about the loadout: when off the boat, does the ordnance have the fire protective coating? There are always exceptions to the rule, but about 90% of the Mk 80 series bombs you will see on Marine "D's" will have the ablative coating, and all the BLU series. If you see any non-thermally protected bombs, they are usually Mk 83s or 84s, and pretty old. If you are planning on modelling a Hawks jet from their most recent OIF deployment, a typical loadout would have been: St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-65 St.3 Drop Tank St.4 Empty St.5 Litening Pod St.6 Empty St.7 Drop Tank St.8 GBU-38 JDAM OR CVER w/two GBU-12s St.9 AIM-9 I was with VMFA(AW)-332 in Al Asad, and -533 relieved us over there, their loadouts would have been very similar if not identical to our loads. Hope this helps! Ski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leatherneck224 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 There are always exceptions to the rule, but about 90% of the Mk 80 series bombs you will see on Marine "D's" will have the ablative coating, and all the BLU series. If you see any non-thermally protected bombs, they are usually Mk 83s or 84s, and pretty old. If you are planning on modelling a Hawks jet from their most recent OIF deployment, a typical loadout would have been:St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-65 St.3 Drop Tank St.4 Empty St.5 Litening Pod St.6 Empty St.7 Drop Tank St.8 GBU-38 JDAM OR CVER w/two GBU-12s St.9 AIM-9 I was with VMFA(AW)-332 in Al Asad, and -533 relieved us over there, their loadouts would have been very similar if not identical to our loads. Hope this helps! Ski well time for me to chime in, since he is using my decals he would need a load out from the opening stages of OIF 1 here are a few i know of from the period. these were pulled from photos and video from the DVD 533 produced after returning from OIF 1 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 GBU-16 St.3 GBU-16 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AN/ASQ-173 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 AGM-65 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 Mk. 83 St.3 Mk. 83 X2 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 GBU-16 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 Mk. 83 X2 St.3 Mk. 83 X2 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 Empty St.7 Drop Tank St.8 Mk. 20 X2 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-88 St.3 Empty St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AN/ASQ-173 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 AGM-88 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 Mk. 83 X2 St.3 Mk. 83 X2 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AN/ASQ-173 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 GBU-16 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-65 St.3 AGM-65 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 LAU-10 X2 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 GBU-12 X2 St.3 GBU-12 X2 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 Mk. 83 X2 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 GBU-12 X2 St.3 GBU-12 X2 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 GBU-10 St.9 AIM-9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boscosticks Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 hey im jw, what does "st.1 ... st.5... st.9" stand for? the "st" part? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Was that asymetrical placement of the tanks standard? I can't find any pics of that. And would these be acceptable: St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-65 St.3 AGM-65 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 2X GBU-12 or GBU16 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-65 St.3 Drop tank St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 2X mk82 St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 GBU-31 St.9 AIM-9 Edited September 2, 2008 by leverancier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leatherneck224 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 hey im jw, what does "st.1 ... st.5... st.9" stand for? the "st" part? station 1 ect. station 1 being the left wing tip and staion 9 being the right wing tip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 @ leatherneck: the instructions state that the blue should be F-35044, but the decals themselves are more black then blue, is this normal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leatherneck224 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Was that asymetrical placement of the tanks standard? I can't find any pics of that.And would these be acceptable: St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-65 St.3 AGM-65 St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 Drop Tank St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 2X GBU-12 or GBU16 St.9 AIM-9 St.1 AIM-9 St.2 AGM-65 St.3 Drop tank St.4 AN/AAS-38 St.5 2X mk82 St.6 AIM-120 St.7 Drop Tank St.8 GBU-31 St.9 AIM-9 from what i see they would both be acceptable (i'm not an ordie though) but your second option would not be probable. asymetrical loads were pretty much standard. it allowed the AN/AAS-38 to have a better feild of view. here are a couple of build references Andy's gallery page Andy's build thread if what i'm doing works i'll be posting a link to one of the hawks videos from the DVD. Edited September 2, 2008 by leatherneck224 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Another question, if I use 2 tanks, should I paint both blue or just 1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leatherneck224 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 HAWKS video Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leatherneck224 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Another question, if I use 2 tanks, should I paint both blue or just 1? i've seen up to 2 tanks painted blue on this jet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 The vid doesn't work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leatherneck224 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) The vid doesn't work curious, it's in a common format(.WMV) and i have no problem opening the link with windows media player. Edited September 2, 2008 by leatherneck224 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usnavyam3 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Ahh its always nice to see a good Delta. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 Progress is a little slow, the cockpit just doesn't seem to want to get painted. I've redone it 3 times, but it never came out good enough, so I've ordered the eduard interior set. Now I'm waiting on that, the mesh set and placards to continue. This is what I've done so far: The seam sanded away and polished: I've been experimenting to try to duplicate the fire resistant coating, and this is what I came up with: Spray glue from tessa and a coat of mr surfacer 1000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Awesome looking weaponry!!! :wacko: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Looks GREAT so far!! You're setting an incredible pace! Marcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charles Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 this is gonna be great!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 And again, a little update: The seats and gear still need the placards. These gave me a big headache: When I finally got them in place and glued the fuselage together, I forgot to check the possition of the intakes... I got them in place and aligned, but it's going to take a lot of putty and sanding to get things smooth, inside and outside. I've also started with the base: This is supposed to look like the plane is flying over the runway, with the squadron patch on it. Does this look convincing or should I go back to the drawing board? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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