naveedgt Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Hi, i was wondering who produces the best boeing 747-300/400 kit in any scale, I have seen quite a few options in 1/144, 1/200 and 1/300 scale but i don't know which is most accurate. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GearDownPlease Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Hi, I recently bought a 747 "pack" on the internet from a nice guy, the pack included a 1/100 747-100 from Doyusha (Lufthansa c/s) and a 1/200 747-300 from Hasegawa (Qantas c/s). After extensively checking photos on airliners.net, I think both of these kits are a huge improvement over the terrible Airfix 747-100 kit, the awful Doyusha 747-400 kit and the average Revell 747-400 kit. I heard Revell's 747-200 "Classic" was very good too, certainly better than their -400 version but I still haven't seen the "Classic" for real. All in all, I have to say the pack wasn't cheap at 100 Swiss francs but both kits look absolutely great, with a mention for the Doyusha kit, undoubtedly the most detailed airliner kit I've ever seen (the main ldg count no less than 24 parts EACH, and the engine 8 or 9 parts each). Fuselage halves a little wrapped but hot wather should take care of this. Hasegawa looks too simple on the other side but the accuracy is as good as the Doyusha's -> GREAT ! Regards, Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 In 1/200 Hasegawa's are your only choices. They're uniformlyl very good. Technically the 747-200/300 P&W engine nacelles are a bit underscale, but they don't look bad. In 1/144 the ancient Revell -100/200 is probably best overall. There is no 1/144 -300 kit. The Revell -400 is really the only game in town, but it's got some very serious problems. It's 747-400 shaped, but that's about the best I can say for it. If you want to cross-kit to get a -300, note that the last 8 -300s built were built with 747-400 wings (sans winglets) and wing root fairings, and some of them had PW4000 (vs. JT9D) nacelles. You really need a photo of the airplane you're doing to get it right. You'd think after 40 years we'd have a good 1/144 747 kit, but we still wait, and wait, and wait. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GCA333 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I have the Revell -400 and it seems pretty good. If you can get it cheap, than its worth it! There is a bump on the nose that you'll have to sand off. The engines (BA RB211 edition) are good. I'm only on dry fit right now, but it is going together well. The fuselage halves fit together well, except one is less than .3 mm too high. Sand it and you're good. The APU area needs sanding and fixing as well. You *could* see a resin -400, but the price would be very expensive (I would say 150-200 USD for a good quality one) For that price, you could wait and see if AIM will make a 1/72 one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GearDownPlease Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 (edited) note that the last 8 -300s built were built with 747-400 wings (sans winglets) and wing root fairings, and some of them had PW4000 (vs. JT9D) nacelles. You really need a photo of the airplane you're doing to get it right.J The last 747-300 built never had PW4000s but eventually General Electric CF6-80C2B1-Fs. Like Air India's birds. Steven Edited September 5, 2008 by Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Of the last 8 747-300s built, there were four different types of engine nacelles fitted: 747-366 24161 704 Egypt Air JT9D 747-366 24162 707 Egypt Air JT9D 747-367 24215 709 Cathay Pacific RB.211 747-337 24159 711 Air India CF6-80 747-3B5 24194 713 Korean Air JT9D 747-346 24156 716 JAL JT9D 747-337 24160 719 Air India CF6-80 747-329SF 24837 810 Sabena CF6 (old pot belly) All eight of these a/c had the 747-400 style wing root fairing. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GearDownPlease Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Of the last 8 747-300s built, there were four different types of engine nacelles fitted:747-366 24161 704 Egypt Air JT9D 747-366 24162 707 Egypt Air JT9D 747-367 24215 709 Cathay Pacific RB.211 747-337 24159 711 Air India CF6-80 747-3B5 24194 713 Korean Air JT9D 747-346 24156 716 JAL JT9D 747-337 24160 719 Air India CF6-80 747-329SF 24837 810 Sabena CF6 (old pot belly) All eight of these a/c had the 747-400 style wing root fairing. J True, but the only "New Generation" engines fitted to the last 747-300s were the CF6-80C2, never saw PW4000s. All the rest (JT9D-7R4G2, RB211-524D4-D and CF6-50C2) were of the previous generation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
naveedgt Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 (edited) thanks you all for the replies, I'll probably go for the hasegawa kit. Has anyone tried the 1/125 heller kits of any airliner. Are they any good. Edited September 5, 2008 by naveedgt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GearDownPlease Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) thanks you all for the replies, I'll probably go for the hasegawa kit. Has anyone tried the 1/125 heller kits of any airliner. Are they any good. You won't be dissapointed with it. The fuselage contours and wing shape and dihedral are so much PERFECT, everything of it looks just right unlike, say, a Revell 747-400 which will look clonky built OOB. The only Hasegawa 747 "cons" are : - windshield which could benefit from a slight shape adjustment (especially the lower edges which shouldn't be straight lines) - over simplified landing gears (way too thick struts, over simplified drag stays) and, depending on the release you get - slightly under scaled PW JT9D engines (were made to be the early JT9D-3/JT9D-7 engines with clamshell doors on the intake, correct on PW-powered 747-100s and 747-200s while PW-powered 747-300s only had the slightly larger JT9D-7R4G2 engines, featuring a slightly larger intake and engine cowlings, revised pylon, NO clamshell doors and of course improved engine) My Qantas release came with nice RB211-524D4-D engines. On the other side, the Doyusha 1/100 747-100 is maybe 666% more detailed (over 400 parts vs 60 parts) but I can't certify it is 666% more accurate, so my advice, go for the :D Hasegawa 1/200 747 range or the very nice :D Revell 1/144 747-100/-200. Regards, Steven Edited September 6, 2008 by Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 True, but the only "New Generation" engines fitted to the last 747-300s were the CF6-80C2, never saw PW4000s. All the rest (JT9D-7R4G2, RB211-524D4-D and CF6-50C2) were of the previous generation. Exactly what I said... J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GearDownPlease Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 If you want to cross-kit to get a -300, note that the last 8 -300s built were built with 747-400 wings (sans winglets) and wing root fairings, and some of them had PW4000 (vs. JT9D) nacelles. You really need a photo of the airplane you're doing to get it right.J J, That's your comment I was refering to. If I read correctly, you say that some of the last built 747-300s were powered by PW4000s. Not correct as in the 747 range, PW4000s appeared on the 747-400. Ciao, Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 You really need a photo of the airplane you're doing to get it right. Very true. We'd say at the schoolhouse "if you've seen 1 747....you've seen 1 747" because I swear everyone is different (at least all of ours were, but even sisters ordered by the same airline were different). Just to make it more interesting to model, many PW powered 100/200/300's were re-engined with R model JT9D's. HTH Spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 J,That's your comment I was refering to. If I read correctly, you say that some of the last built 747-300s were powered by PW4000s. Not correct as in the 747 range, PW4000s appeared on the 747-400. Ciao, Steven Nope, no PW4000s in the list, just JT9Ds J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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