Murph Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Those top shots would be very helpful if you could find them. The link you provided is very helpful. I noticed that the picture of 75072 in the hanger has the ECM antenna on the tail boom. Do you know if this is an exception or did any other 125th aircraft receive this upgrade? It would be the exception; the tail antenna was not typically fitted to A and B models. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Those top shots would be very helpful if you could find them. The link you provided is very helpful. I noticed that the picture of 75072 in the hanger has the ECM antenna on the tail boom. Do you know if this is an exception or did any other 125th aircraft receive this upgrade? excellent eye! I didn't notice the addition until I uploaded the photos It would be the exception; the tail antenna was not typically fitted to A and B models.Regards, Murph thanks Murph Here's a high res of the back of F-15C 78-0543, which also shows many other details nicely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 That is just a fantastic detail shot. Thanks for posting it Ken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobobs Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Little bump aft of radome is your biggest exterior clue that it's an AESA V2 jet also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 So inquiring minds still want to know - when is somebody going to do a 1/48 scale A/C canopy turtle deck with some detail in it to replace the un-detailed kit part, and make redundant the less than worthless 1980s Verlinden PE set that doesn't fit for crap and is like putting together a Chinese puzzle? Mike & Mike?? :lol: J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 That is just a fantastic detail shot. Thanks for posting it Ken. thanks David, wish I had taken it :lol: Little bump aft of radome is your biggest exterior clue that it's an AESA V2 jet also. thanks Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wakko807 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Thanks for the info. I am building a Florida ANG bird form the Hasegawa kit and the TwoBobs decals and was not sure if I needed to modify this area or not. Pictures of this part of the aircraft seem to be difficult to come by. This one, although not totally clear, seems to back up your information since it still has the original fairing. I have Jake's book and it is excellent, but it doesn't really address this area.Thanks again to everyone who assisted with this. Which FL ANG bird are you doing? I have shots from their participation in Red Flag this summer...not sure if any will help but if you let me know the number of the particular one you're doing I can take a look... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Little bump aft of radome is your biggest exterior clue that it's an AESA V2 jet also. The Band 3 "bump" is an upgrade to the ICMS, not related to the AESA. There are two: one on top and one below, just aft of the radome. Nearly the entire fleet of Cs have this, but no Ds. Jake Edited November 26, 2008 by jmel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hertem Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Which FL ANG bird are you doing? I have shots from their participation in Red Flag this summer...not sure if any will help but if you let me know the number of the particular one you're doing I can take a look... I was planing on doing 76033 from the Twobobs sheet, but if you have pictures that include crew names and tail numbers that would certainly open the possiblity of doing a differnt aircraft. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan_Lotton Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Also as a side note? MSIP B's and D's dont have the right side tail boom that MSIP C's have. They retain the pointed tips ala the vast majority of MSIP A's and B's. Also, your milage may vary on them having tail booms at all..as sometimes inexperienced pilots or student pilots will drag the tails on the runway, grinding them down and necessitating a sheet metal replacement..which is almost always just a blunt, square piece of metal. Sorry about the pic quality, it was insanely smokey that day due to the California wild fires and the heat (95+ degrees) He's a pic of a Kingsley D, 78-569, that still has its tail booms, note the lack of the antenna: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobobs Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 The Band 3 "bump" is an upgrade to the ICMS, not related to the AESA. There are two: one on top and one below, just aft of the radome. Nearly the entire fleet of Cs have this, but no Ds.Jake Not related to AESA is right but it's a visual clue that the jet has it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 (edited) MSIP B's and D's dont have the right side tail boom that MSIP C's have. They retain the pointed tips ala the vast majority of MSIP A's and B's. Jonathan, That is incorrect. Ken posted links to three pictures on the first page of this thread of a D model "tub" with the antenna (post#5), and I also posted on the front page an explanation for it (factory delivered MSIP versus depot modified MSIP). There have been exceptions, as should be expected on jets that average around 25 years in service to begin with and which have served in both the active duty and Guard with their differing funding programs. Regards, Murph Edited November 27, 2008 by Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Not related to AESA is right but it's a visual clue that the jet has it. No, it's really not. Nearly the entire fleet of Cs have the ICMS Band 3 upgrade, with the exception of those jets at training squadrons at Tyndall and the Weapons School. The two aren't related. Not all jets with AESA have the Band 3 nodule, and not all jets with Band 3 have AESA. Jake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grooger200 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 (edited) Cheers Ken yep 48th, ill head over to superscale and have a look! Edited November 27, 2008 by grooger200 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Cheers Kenyep 48th, ill head over to superscale and have a look! good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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