jollyrogerf14 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Hi guys. Title & description say it all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I believe for one, that the shape of the nose is different. Could be wrong. Won't be the first time today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 For a straight E-2C (Group 0, 1, 2 or 2+): Shape of the nose, flat antenna's on the outer vertical stabs and the tail, canoe faring on the lower right side of the fuselage, radio antenna configuration. Depending on the time frame, SATCOM nipple on the dome and a stormscope antenna under the tail. For an E-2C G2/G2+: GPS puck on top of cockpit For and E-2C Hawkeye 2000: all of the above, except the refractometer is deleted (bong looking thing on the cockpit roof), radio antenna configuration is changed again, added the "trashcan" antenna under the fuselage, the trailing wire HF antenna is deleted and the SATCOM nipple is upgraded to a Fez looking thing. HTH Spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 E-2A had a pug nose and a smaller heat exchanger box above and behind the cockpit. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 So, the differences are in nipples, trashcans, pucks, bongs, and Fezs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wakko807 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 So, the differences are in nipples, trashcans, pucks, bongs, and Fezs? In other words kinda like choosing a stripper for a lapdance... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 In other words kinda like choosing a stripper for a lapdance...So, bigger nipples are better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 So, bigger nipples are better? As a matter of general principle, yes. Up to a point. Like everything else, after a certain point it becomes ridiculous :) J :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 So, the differences are in nipples, trashcans, pucks, bongs, and Fezs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sig Saur & Son Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 E-2B April 1983 Photographer is unknown. No name on the slide mount. E-2C Oct 1991 Photo Pete Wilson E-2C March 2003 Photo David F. Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I thought the biggest change was that big-*** radiator for the avionics stuff fore the rotodome, but the nose is definitely prettier on the C. How exactly does the rotodome lower, BTW? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I thought the biggest change was that big-*** radiator for the avionics stuff fore the rotodome, but the nose is definitely prettier on the C. How exactly does the rotodome lower, BTW? Lower? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Lower? ;) Yeah, me too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Electra II Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 How exactly does the rotodome lower, BTW? Umm, it doesn't. It is fixed in place. It does rotate, however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parche Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I thought I remember hearing something once about it squatting slightly for stowage clearance issues... seems a stretch though Cheers, Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aim9xray Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Lower? Yep. It seemed a good idea in 1960 when there were fewer big carriers around. E-2As could do it, the feature was deactivated when they were converted to E-2Bs and deleted in the E-2C. How'd it work? The upper section of the pylon fairing was built in left and right sections. To stow, the sections folded down, and the radome was hydraulically lowered. No more difficult than folding the wings. The movable section of the pylon fairing was only the upper two or so feet of the assembly - about where you see the black leading edge on the E-2B photo that Dave posted above. That brought the top of the radome below the tips of the vertical stabilizers, which was all that was needed. HTH, Craig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wakko807 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 So, the differences are in nipples, trashcans, pucks, bongs, and Fezs? In other words kinda like choosing a stripper for a lapdance... I thought I remember hearing something once about it squatting slightly for stowage clearance issues Another quality to look for.... ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sig Saur & Son Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 All joking aside, it took awhile but I found this E-2A in the black and white files. Actually, it's a W2F Hawkeye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomologist Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 E-2C+ Walkaround here Link thingy E-2C 1986 version Walkaround here Link thingy E-2B Walkaround here Link thingy Ultimate Hawkeye Walkaround here Link thingy Enjoy! bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) How exactly does the rotodome lower, BTW? Like so much other stuff, it's a result of the original RFP. It stated that the aircraft had to be able to operate from SCB-27C modified Essex class carriers and newer. Because of the limited Hangar overhead, the dome needed to be lowered by 3 ft. In addition, the limited elevator size necessitated the wing-fold system, the deck strength and aircraft weight of no more than 52k lbs and the less-than-aerodynamically-stable correct length (the E-2 is 10ft short of ideal which causes a divergent pitch oscillation in the approach configuration (gear/flaps down)). During testing, initial CQ for the E-2A was done on the Lexington. After the E-2A proved to be a useless hunk of FOD operationally, "they" made the decision to place the E-2B squadrons onto Midway and newer carriers, so the rotodome system was sort-of removed (it was still listed in the E-2C NATOPS as of 2003 along with the Essex class clearance.) HTH Spongebob Edited December 3, 2008 by Spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aim9xray Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Aha! I knew I had this filed. E-2A BuNo 149818, July 1964. Spongebob might recognize this corner of Pt. Mugu's Hangar 553. (Navy Photo) It turns out that the fairing splits into four sections, two per side. Of course you could just go topless over Long Island... W2F-1 BuNo 149149 (aircraft #2) January 1962 (Grumman Photo) It is very difficult to see, but this aircraft is trimmed with da-glo orange. HTH, Craig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Interesting thread guys, Thanks ! I always enjoyed seeing the Hawkeye Demo at Miramar back in the day ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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