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I have decided to make this a WIF USAF Apache. This is the start of my Paveapache! The refueling probe goes here. I know some of the sensor field of view will be obscured by it, but that's part of the hand me down nature of this aircraft and the quick mods the USAF had to do. I'm working on the radar instalation now. I can't do a longbow style because that would be way to easy, Besides the story goes that this is a reluctant hand me down A model from the Army. What do you think of some old style M.A.S.H external stretcher type things? Or maybe using the Missles from the kit?

What do you think

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Curt

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Sensor views be darned, I like it alot! Great idea you had there. I dunno about the mash-style stretchers. Would those take away from the offensive/defensive abilities too much? Maybe one side with the stretcher and the other with pods?

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Curt,

Lookin good man! I like the refueling boom installation. I was thinking that you might want to add a hinge line just above the aft end of the boom to show a modified avionics bay door. Since it was a hasty installation, they had to modify the bay door and switch some avionics around to accomodate. Not a great solution, but it worked.

As for the weather radar, you might want to do something along the lines of the AH-1Z. There have been some mockups done of the Longbow radar installed on the wingtip. You'd have some sensor blanking because of the fuselage, but for a weather radar, that wouldn't be an issue.

I've been contemplating the stretcher installation too. If this is a RESCORT bird, you'd want as much firepower as possible and you'd leave the patient carrying capacity to an HH-60/HH-47, but lets just say there's a secondary role as downed/injured aircrew extraction. How about modifying one of the Hellfire racks with planks that aircrew could secure themselves to for extraction? Figure two planks per launcher? The launcher and pylon could easily support two 200lb+ aircrew. Of course, I'd install it on the opposite wing from the radar, but that's just me :thumbsup:

Keep it up, this is really cool! Any idea how you're gonna paint it?

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My radar instalation. I was thinking about the wing tip, but having made an extra Pavelow radome I decided on a Pavelow like install. I think it will work. Cobra I like the spirit of your suggestion. Maybe a modified stretcher rack that is quickly removable for mounting missles. Imagine the incentive flights!

It will be Gunship grey of course!

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Curt

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Curt,

GREAT radar installation! That looks fantastic!

Picture this: Hellfire rack modification. Top rails removed. The lower rails have the stretchers installed. They use the same rails as the Hellfire, and the stretchers just slide on and lock in place.

Keep it up!

Jon

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Curt,

GREAT radar installation! That looks fantastic!

Picture this: Hellfire rack modification. Top rails removed. The lower rails have the stretchers installed. They use the same rails as the Hellfire, and the stretchers just slide on and lock in place.

Keep it up!

Jon

Thanks Cobra. That's a good idea about the rails, in this scale I think I can make that. Now I need a big Pavehawk to go with this thing. I can do a Moffett Field diorama!

Awesome !!!!!! Mines slowly coming along if i could just stop being distracted by the beer involved lol

Good thing I only drink coffee! :thumbsup:

Thanks for the comments and Merry Christmas!

Curt

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How about a Little-bird type bench installation on the outboard hardpoints on both wings? Just hang a bench off each one, with seatbelts. Inboard hardpoints would have the new laser-guided rockets on each wing. It'd be a nice solution to insert/extract special-ops/Ranger teams, and have enough firepower to cover them for a bit. Perhaps there could even be a single Hellfire rail under each bench-seat. You might even put some kind of windshield to protect the ground-troops from well, wind, and rocket exhaust. Another idea: make the benches "spring-loaded foldable," (the real benches, not the model ones,) so that when the troops are on them, they're flat, but spring up vertical without weight on them. (Think stadium/movie seats, only as a bench) It'd keep the Pave-pache from having big'ol benches hanging out in the breeze. Naturally, they'd be armored/Kevlar, to protect the troops' backsides, so you could easily do them with thick sheet styrene.

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How about a Little-bird type bench installation on the outboard hardpoints on both wings? Just hang a bench off each one, with seatbelts. Inboard hardpoints would have the new laser-guided rockets on each wing. It'd be a nice solution to insert/extract special-ops/Ranger teams, and have enough firepower to cover them for a bit. Perhaps there could even be a single Hellfire rail under each bench-seat. You might even put some kind of windshield to protect the ground-troops from well, wind, and rocket exhaust. Another idea: make the benches "spring-loaded foldable," (the real benches, not the model ones,) so that when the troops are on them, they're flat, but spring up vertical without weight on them. (Think stadium/movie seats, only as a bench) It'd keep the Pave-pache from having big'ol benches hanging out in the breeze. Naturally, they'd be armored/Kevlar, to protect the troops' backsides, so you could easily do them with thick sheet styrene.

Interesting ideas Kevin. Now for the Story line about that idea. The Air Force was considering that for PJ's but the Army threw fits sighting that the Air Force could not have attack helocopters. The brass reluctantly agreed and "benched" the bench idea. Development of a casualty extraction system did continue though. The system can only be used on the outbound leg of a mission and only in the most extreme situations, such as rescuing injured HH-60 crews after a shoot down or the severely wounded. The Air Force offically does not train Paveapache self extraction but that is an option aswell. So to make a long story short the stretcher/benches are to only be used as a last resort. The Paveapache is an "escort" not an "attack" helo. It is only allowed to "supress" hostile forces near the LZ.

Here are some pics.

I got the Probe finished with some styrene bits and copper wire. I made it just like a Pavehawks for interchangeability.

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Now with a coat of Gunship grey!

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This is getting fun. I'm getting into this build. Thanks for all the ideas! Keep them comming!!!!

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Curt

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