ChristopherC Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) Damn, I missed this thread! Now all is good I have caught up and you have done a great job! Will we see this on the Expo tables in June? :DI hate to steal your idea but I just happen to have a 1/72 Revell Raptor kit and some spare pig wings and yours looks so great I would love to reproduce it in 1/72 perhaps as a twin seater. No worries Ray! I'd love to see someone do a twin seater raptor. I was going to give it a try but got scared off by the canopy. Also figured I'd done enough puttying on this project. Any idea what scheme you'd do? Oh, and you might see this one at expo, as well as a few other things B) Chris Edited March 7, 2009 by ChristopherC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 No worries Ray! I'd love to see someone do a twin seated raptor. I was going to give it a try but got sslcared off by the canopy. Also figured I'd done enough puttyin on this project. Any idea what scheme you'd do?Oh, and you might see this one at expo, as well as a few other things Chris Hi mate.. I am actually planning both a two seater F-22 in both 1/148, and 1/144.. How I will go about it, is still a mystery, but I will try and work something out! Have enjoyed watching your build. I used to work on F-111's, and it reminds me of a modern version of a naval version.. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Hi Chris, look forward to seeing your builds. My plan for making a two seater canopy was to take the kit canopy and cut it in two somewhere around the middle. I'd lengthen it with plane old plastic card and sand it all smooth. Then I'd use this as a master push it into some heated up clear plastic card. Maybe I'll try it one day. Anyway, I've put on most of the decals. The majority of the decals come from a 1/100 RAN Skyhawk sheet by Novascale. The 'roos are left over from a 1/144 RAAF hornet sheet also by Novascale. I also put a wash into the weapon bays to bring out some of the detail. I still have to make the HMAS Endeavour decals as well serial numbers. I've decided the visible weapons will be an ASRAAM in the cheek bay, and an AMRAAM and JSOW in the main bay. The end is in sight now! Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 The end is in sight now!Chris So when will we see an open winged version?? Sorry mate, had to throw that comment in there.. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
limyc Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 very nice! somehow the nose color make it look like a bird to me lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Coming along nicely! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingoalie Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Sweet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Thats amazing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 I made the carrier name a serial number in Gimp and printed them onto decal paper. Try not to think about where everything is supposed to fit here. There is no way the main landing gear can retract and the wing sweep into the fuselage, but I'm just going to ignore that And here are the weapons Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 ...And here are the weapons Chris Dude, W(here)T(he)F(limflaming) heck kit includes AGM-154s! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Dude, W(here)T(he)F(limflaming) heck kit includes AGM-154s! Get yourself one of dragons A-10 double boxings. The kits themselves aren't great but you get a boatload of weapons. The AGM-154 comes off a sprue which has 2x AGM-154, 2x JDAMs, 2x Rockeyes and an ECM pod of some kind. Actually, I'll take a photo of all the weapons you get and upload it in a tic. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Here we go. Wasn't quite a tic, somehow my internet managed to cut out. You get two of each of the pictured sprues. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 (edited) Hey Chris, I love the work on your decals. Might have to get you to send me a few! Yes, I am serious! HMAS Brisbane please! Did you do the roundals as well as the air intake markings? ps: On a side note. I was thinking today about the arrester (spelling) hook for carrier landings. I was curious as to what you were planning.... As for me, I also just got the Dragon twin set F/A-18F kit, and as one of those will be a RAAF bug. I may use the hook off off of it and put it on the raptor. The other will be a RAN Bug.. As well as that, I am thinking about scratching the F-22 front gear to cater for the catapult.. Edited March 9, 2009 by Samurai_Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 (edited) On a side note. I was thinking today about the arrester (spelling) hook for carrier landings. I was curious as to what you were planning.... As for me, I also just got the Dragon twin set F/A-18F kit, and as one of those will be a RAAF bug. I may use the hook off off of it and put it on the raptor. The other will be a RAN Bug.. As well as that, I am thinking about scratching the F-22 front gear to cater for the catapult.. IIRC, the Raptor, like the F-16, has a built-in arrestor hook (albeit a lightweight version for icy runways and ect.), but the Raptor's is in a well like the weapons bays. Would probably be more hassle than it's worth to cut open that bay and scratch an interior for the hook unit. And BTW Chris, thanks a bunch! I don't think Dragon/DML makes enough ordinance-deprived kits to use up all the leftovers I'll have if I get the A-10 1+1 (in addition to the leftover munitions from my A2A refueling 1+1 and the VF-213 F/A-18F 1+1) (EDIT): Chris, that ECM pod that comes with the JSOWs is a shorty ALQ-184. Edited March 9, 2009 by sv51macross Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Thanks sv, you also get a larger ECM pod for each A-10 (on the kit sprue), as well as another two sidewinders per A-10. Chris, my idea for the arrestor hook was pretty much as sv said. I figured why bother adding it if the F-22A already stores its internally. For nose gear I've used one of the spare legs that comes in the Dragon F/A-18E/F boxings. I didn't print the roundels myself, they were spare from a 1/144th RAAF hornet sheet by novascale. Most of the red on the intakes was painted, while the "arrows" come from a 1/100 RAN skyhawk sheet. Here are links to both; hornet, skyhawk. If you like I'd be happy to print out some decals for you. Drop me a PM letting me know what you'd like and where to send them. Oh, and here's as close as I'll get to doing an open wing F-22N Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjo Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 yeap, thats right on the money mate. Bloody AWESOME! very inspirational... i want to try this in 1/48 scale one day! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antony robertson Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Looks amazing, you've done a fantastic job on it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) Thanks sv, you also get a larger ECM pod for each A-10 (on the kit sprue), as well as another two sidewinders per A-10.Chris, my idea for the arrestor hook was pretty much as sv said. I figured why bother adding it if the F-22A already stores its internally. For nose gear I've used one of the spare legs that comes in the Dragon F/A-18E/F boxings. I didn't print the roundels myself, they were spare from a 1/144th RAAF hornet sheet by novascale. Most of the red on the intakes was painted, while the "arrows" come from a 1/100 RAN skyhawk sheet. Here are links to both; hornet, skyhawk. If you like I'd be happy to print out some decals for you. Drop me a PM letting me know what you'd like and where to send them. Oh, and here's as close as I'll get to doing an open wing F-22N ;) Chris You could imagine seeing one with wings out, coming in to land on the deck.. :) I guess the next question for both of us is. What carrier should Australia put all these bad boys on? Ex US Nimitz Class. UK jump deck. A PA2. Or as I would like to see. A locally made Brisbane Class Carrier, that is basically somewhere size wise between a French de Gaulle & a Nimitz. I would have the deck stacked with a Sqn of Sea Raptors. Both 1 & 2 seat. F/A-18E-F-Gs. MRH-90s. As a secondary measure. Two smaller amphibious carriers that carries F-35s, MHR-90s. Edited March 10, 2009 by Samurai_Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 You could imagine seeing one with wings out, coming in to land on the deck.. I guess the next question for both of us is. What carrier should Australia put all these bad boys on? Ex US Nimitz Class. UK jump deck. A PA2. Or as I would like to see. A locally made Brisbane Class Carrier, that is basically somewhere size wise between a French de Gaulle & a Nimitz. I would have the deck stacked with a Sqn of Sea Raptors. Both 1 & 2 seat. F/A-18E-F-Gs. MRH-90s. As a secondary measure. Two smaller amphibious carriers that carries F-35s, MHR-90s. I don't think anything with a ski jump would cut it for a Sea Raptor. I like your idea of a Brisbane class carrier. I would also E-2s or some equivalent aircraft for early warning. I remember reading that Australia is supposed to get one or two amphibious assault ships of some description. The story went on to say that these ships could be easily modified to have ski jumps and operate VTOL F-35s. As well as MRH-90s I'd also add some navalised Eurocopter Tiger gunships. Hmm, another whiff idea. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I don't think anything with a ski jump would cut it for a Sea Raptor. I like your idea of a Brisbane class carrier. I would also E-2s or some equivalent aircraft for early warning.I remember reading that Australia is supposed to get one or two amphibious assault ships of some description. The story went on to say that these ships could be easily modified to have ski jumps and operate VTOL F-35s. As well as MRH-90s I'd also add some navalised Eurocopter Tiger gunships. Hmm, another whiff idea. Chris Russia uses ski-jumps for the Su-33. And the Raptor certainly has more then enough power for even swing wings, especially since they pretty much cancel out any meaningful warload on the wings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Russia uses ski-jumps for the Su-33. And the Raptor certainly has more then enough power for even swing wings, especially since they pretty much cancel out any meaningful warload on the wings. But what kind of a useful load can an SU-33 carry off a ski-jump? Surely less than if it were launched with a steam catapult. I'd still want this Sea Raptor to be able to get off the boat if it had a full internal load and maybe 4 loaded underwing pylons. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 But what kind of a useful load can an SU-33 carry off a ski-jump? Surely less than if it were launched with a steam catapult. I'd still want this Sea Raptor to be able to get off the boat if it had a full internal load and maybe 4 loaded underwing pylons.Chris Agree with the ski jump. As for a Brisbane Class Carrier. Instead of giving everyone free hand outs, as has been the policy of late. Then maybe fixing the country's infrastructure, and developing a ship building industry to give people jobs may be something better. People will argue that we don't have enough people in the Navy now. And that's because we have a tin boat Navy. Not very exciting, even for the biggest Navy lover. I have always said. You build something locally, using local skills. And then fly cool stuff off of it. Then you will have kids lining up around the corner to join the Navy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Ok folks, here we are, all finished! Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingoalie Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 That is just simply cool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 That is just simply cool! Agreed. Who'd of thought of putting swing wings on a Raptor. But you pulled it off.. Hope mine comes out just as good. Great work mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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