JMan Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hey everyone I am building the A-7E Corsair II as a commission build and would like to make this as accurate as possible. I am looking for a proper Vietnam era loadout. Would like a combination of missles and bombs. BTW, I am building the Trumpeter 1/32 scale version, so there is a buttload of weapons, just need a little help! Thanks all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hey everyone I am building the A-7E Corsair II as a commission build and would like to make this as accurate as possible. I am looking for a proper Vietnam era loadout. Would like a combination of missles and bombs. BTW, I am building the Trumpeter 1/32 scale version, so there is a buttload of weapons, just need a little help! Thanks all! I think in the SEA conflict, generally speaking the A-7D's delivered pig iron Mk. 82 (and its Snakeye variant) and Mk 84 GP bombs, BLU-27 napalm cannisters and LAU-series rocket pods, in addition to fuel tanks and the AIM-9's on the fuselage stations. AFAIK the AGM-65 Maverick was a post-Vietnam addition to the SLUF's weapon options in Air Force service. HTH, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 I will take that into consideration when I build my A-7D, right now this however, will be a Navy version and would like the typical weapons loadout in that conflict. Thanks for your information, I will use that on the next one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reddog Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Most common ordnance carried was Mk 82's, Mk 20 Rockeye and for Missiles, the AGM-45 Shrike, along with AIM-9G on the fuselage stations. the A-7E was also capable of hauling Walleyes, all the Mk 80 series Iron Bombs, LGB's and Rockets. Firebombs were not carried while aboard ship and I didn't see too many carry drop tanks during Vietnam. Here's is one suggested loaded out, Station 1 and 8 = TER with Mk 20 Rockeye on centerline and outboard TER stations Station 2 and 7 = AGM-45 on a AERO 5A Station 2 and 6 = Mk 20 Rockeye on parent rack Station 4 and 5 = AIM-9G Sidewinder This load out would be for SAM suppression missions. What squadron and time frame are you doing, that would help determine what would be the most proper load out. Reddog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Most common ordnance carried was Mk 82's, Mk 20 Rockeye and for Missiles, the AGM-45 Shrike, along with AIM-9G on the fuselage stations. the A-7E was also capable of hauling Walleyes, all the Mk 80 series Iron Bombs, LGB's and Rockets. Firebombs were not carried while aboard ship and I didn't see too many carry drop tanks during Vietnam. Here's is one suggested loaded out, Station 1 and 8 = TER with Mk 20 Rockeye on centerline and outboard TER stations Station 2 and 7 = AGM-45 on a AERO 5A Station 2 and 6 = Mk 20 Rockeye on parent rack Station 4 and 5 = AIM-9G Sidewinder This load out would be for SAM suppression missions. What squadron and time frame are you doing, that would help determine what would be the most proper load out. Reddog This is for VA-192 circa, 1972 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reddog Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Check out this link, it has two possible load out's for VA-192 in 1972. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...l%3Den%26sa%3DN The picture with the aircrew shows a TER on station one with LAU-61's and A MER with Mk 82 (slicks) on station 2. I'm sure that the other side would be the same and possibly a FLIR Pod on station 6. The inflight photo shows a M129 Cluster Bomb on station one and a MER on station two with three Mk 82 (slicks) loaded on the centerline and outboard forward station. Again, I'm sure the other side is the same with possibly a FLIR Pod loaded. HTH Reddog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hey thanks for that link, but all I see is the picture with the squadron pilots, no other links to look at the loadouts you are talking about! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Nevermind I got ya! Thanks for the link, I went to that website and I saw some other things on there too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 inflight photo shows a M129 Cluster Bomb on station one and a MER on station two with three Mk 82 (slicks) loaded on the centerline and outboard forward station. Again, I'm sure the other side is the same with possibly a FLIR Pod loaded.HTH Reddog The inflight VA-192 Photo The outboard pylon is loaded with a CBU-29C/B cluster bomb (SUU-30C/B + 670 BLU-36 bomblets), not an M129 leaflet bomb. Good luck with all that "waste of plastic" Trumpeter ordnance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 The Osprey A-7 Units in The Vietnam War book has lots of ideas for weapon loads carried by the Corsair including 5 Mk-82s on MERs on the o/b pylons (lower aft rack empty) and 1 Shrike on a middle pylon, the other stations being empty. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reddog Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 The inflight VA-192 PhotoThe outboard pylon is loaded with a CBU-29C/B cluster bomb (SUU-30C/B + 670 BLU-36 bomblets), not an M129 leaflet bomb. Good luck with all that "waste of plastic" Trumpeter ordnance! Thanks for keeping me honest Jim, guess I don't know my Air Force ordnance as well as I thought. Reddog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary F Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 While not the sqdn you're looking for specifically, I checked my cruise book from the '72 cruise and found these loadouts (for VA-27 and 97 w A-7E's): TER's outboard w 2 mk82 (bottom and outside), single mk82 on each remaining pylon Same as above but w one Shrike on a mid pylon Single mk82's on inner and outer pylons, w MER on center pylon but only 2 mk82's on bottom stations of the MER Same load immediately above but w mk82 Snakeye's Most of the ac had at least one Sidewinder (all the pics showed mounted on left side but couldn't see the right side in any of the pics, or it was in shadow) While not in any of the pics, I also recalled similar loadouts but w mk20 Rockeye. hope that helps a bit, Gary F Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I will take that into consideration when I build my A-7D, right now this however, will be a Navy version and would like the typical weapons loadout in that conflict. Thanks for your information, I will use that on the next one! Oops - I misread your A-7E for A-7D. Excuses! I need more coffee... Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Even though the Shrike was carried, was it a pretty common load? I guess north of the DMZ it would have been a good idea, but was it carried by all A-7s in the Strike Package, or just a few, select aircraft/pilots? I would expect Mk.82s and 83s to be the "most-carried" weapons for strikes in the north. Of course, I could be way off base here… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reddog Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Even though the Shrike was carried, was it a pretty common load? I guess north of the DMZ it would have been a good idea, but was it carried by all A-7s in the Strike Package, or just a few, select aircraft/pilots? I would expect Mk.82s and 83s to be the "most-carried" weapons for strikes in the north. Of course, I could be way off base here… It all depends on the mission and the target as to what is going to be carried. There is no thing as a "standard" load, it's all mission/target driven. Reddog :o Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 In the A-7 Units book the first part of the book has a nice article about A-7s working with a FAC near Saigon in April 1972, the load of the Corsairs was 10 Mk-82s, 2 Rockeyes, 1 Shrike and 1 AIM-9. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) It all depends on the mission and the target as to what is going to be carried. There is no thing as a "standard" load, it's all mission/target driven.Reddog I understand that, I just wasn't aware that the Shrike was a common part of the A-7 loadout in Vietnam. I guess I'm always thinking Mk.8x series slicks or snakeyes on Navy A-7s (IIRC A-7s were involved mining Haiphong harbor, so I guess mines would have been carried as well). Edited February 12, 2009 by DonSS3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reddog Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I was in A-7's in the mid 80's and we were cleared to fly everything in the Navy's inventory with the exception of Sparrow, Phoenix, Harpoon and Maverick. The A-6 guys did a lot of iron bombs, we did a lot of cluster bombs and HARM/Shrike's along with LGB's. Reddog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Thanks for the clarification. I just always thought the A-7 (and the A-4 for that matter) always looked kind of odd with Shrikes hanging under the wings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 JMan As per my PM, 12 x Mk 82s from the Academy Hornet model were sent by mail today. Enjoy! You can thank Spooky for clueing me in to your needs. ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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