Kestrell Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Hi Guys, I noticed that there is a what-if for jet modeling. Is there anything like that for the Rotorheads? Anyway, heres two ideas. First is the proposed scheme for the AH-2B Rooivalk deal that fell through in 1994, and my impression of a SAPS (South African Police Service) Rooivalk. Kestrell Edited March 18, 2009 by Kestrell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Moore Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Interesting Wh-iffers, John. An Israeli version would look pretty cool (and I imagine that it would be well suited for the environment given that areas of the Rooivalk's homeland can be harsh to operate in as well). Cheers, Alby Edited March 16, 2009 by Albert Moore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaronw Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I've had some what if ideas based around the US upgrading the UH-34 to turbine power and keeping it in service along side the Huey. One of these is a budget counter to the Mi-24 Hind as an attack / transport helicopter AH-34, MH-34? :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 A question that is a little off-topic: Kestrell, what art software do you use to make up the drawings? LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hi Guys,I noticed that there is a what-if for jet modeling. Is there anything like that for the Rotorheads? Anyway, heres two ideas. First is the proposed scheme for the AH-2B Rooivalk deal that fell through in 1994, and my impression of a SAPS (South African Police Service) Rooivalk. Kestrell I love the K-9 compartment! I thought it said "Beware of Blast" first, but then realized what it was! Very cool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Hi guys, I use Corel Draw 11 for the drawings. With what-if's you can relax and do anything you want, and nobody can tell you that you are wrong. . Alby, an Israeli Rooivalk would be awesome. Your wish is my command. Edited March 18, 2009 by Kestrell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Moore Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Oooooh, I like that! Thanks for posting the IDF version. :( Now we to come up with a moniker for it seeing as the IDF/AF likes to assign Hebrew names to their aircraft. What would the Hebrew equivalent to 'red kestrel' be? Cheers, Alby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Oooooh, I like that! Thanks for posting the IDF version. :( Now we to come up with a moniker for it seeing as the IDF/AF likes to assign Hebrew names to their aircraft. What would the Hebrew equivalent to 'red kestrel' be?Cheers, Alby Hi Alby, All I could find is בז מצוי pronounced ’Buz Adom’. Doesnt sound intimmidating. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Moore Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hi Alby,All I could find is בז מצוי pronounced 'Buz Adom'. Doesnt sound intimmidating. John John, Guess we'll stick to using Hebrew snake names then! Cheers, Alby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Hi Alby, Snake names will work. Here is some more artwork for countries that actually looked at buying the Rooivalk. Cheers Edited March 18, 2009 by Kestrell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Some great stuff! :) Particularly like the British and Australian Army ones! We did have a what-if thread for helicopters. It can be found HERE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 Some great stuff! Particularly like the British and Australian Army ones! We did have a what-if thread for helicopters. It can be found HERE. Hi, Thanks for showing me the link to the what-if's. Some inspiring ideas there, and the quality of the artwork...WOW!. Now that there is two forums..., I'll continue playing around on this one and keep one eye on the other. I'm busy building the UK AH-2B in 1/72, as it almost happened. The drawing was the official proposal from DENEL. The Ausie one is nice and colorful, and they also almost baught them aswell, and the same story with Turkey. South Africa use to have strong ties with Israel before 1994, and it would not have surprised me if the were interested. Cheers John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 <...> I'm busy building the UK AH-2B in 1/72 <...> Pics! PICS! ;) Too few Rooivalks round 'ere! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Okay, now dont crucify me for this one... Cheers John Edited March 18, 2009 by Kestrell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Hi guys, Just to change the flavour a bit, heres an idea for the WZ-10 from China. Cheers Edited March 22, 2009 by Kestrell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Ooh, yeah, WZ-10 profiles! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) This Commanche was a fluke. Not sure what I did with the drawing program, but I like it. Cheers Edited March 18, 2009 by Kestrell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ice225 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 ...got a whif on my workbench at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 ...got a whif on my workbench at the moment. An Australian Tigre in German markings.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 :D, Hmmm, some Aussie snake names. Eastern Brown; nah, too formal. I know, the Fierce Snake or Inland Taipan. If you get bitten by one of these you want to hope you're within about half an hour of an emergency department with the appropriate anti-venine or you're a goner and although there have been several recorded bites of humans noone is recorded as having died as a result, mainly because taipan anti venom was quickly available. Drop for drop their venom is the most toxic of any land snake in the world so Inland Taipan would be an appropriate name for an Aussie Rooivalk. If you google for Inland Taipan there is a very good piece under wikipedia which I have cross referenced with the Australian Reptile Park's site and the wikipedia entry is for once very good. :(, Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 :D, Hmmm, some Aussie snake names. Eastern Brown; nah, too formal. I know, the Fierce Snake or Inland Taipan. If you get bitten by one of these you want to hope you're within about half an hour of an emergency department with the appropriate anti-venine or you're a goner and although there have been several recorded bites of humans noone is recorded as having died as a result, mainly because taipan anti venom was quickly available. Drop for drop their venom is the most toxic of any land snake in the world so Inland Taipan would be an appropriate name for an Aussie Rooivalk. If you google for Inland Taipan there is a very good piece under wikipedia which I have cross referenced with the Australian Reptile Park's site and the wikipedia entry is for once very good., Ross. Hi Ross, Excellent idea. The Taipan will be perfect. Damn venomous snake, and will therefore suit the Rooivalk's purpose. Cheers John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ice225 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 An Australian Tigre in German markings.... Yes - Australia bought the right Tiger-version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrell Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 Yes - Australia bought the right Tiger-version. Hi Ice225, That is the prettier version of the Tiger. Interestingly, if you noticed that it uses the same target aquisition pod as the Rooivalk. Only its upside down and on the rear canopy. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) Kestrell, A true story-back in the late 60s, early 70's when Australia got its Bell 206B (Kiowa) they were also going to get Huey Cobras as well to use in Vietnam but the labour Government that won the election cancelled the order for the Cobras and went with just the Kiowa. My late father-in-law was at Fort Worth in Texas at Bell overseeing the project at the time on behalf of the RAAF. When he told me about this I went out and bought a 1/48 Cobra (can't recall brand or model) and painted in similar markings to what the Aussie Kiowas are wearing now. He loved it. Unfortunately, I cant post pics of it at present but imagine 'what if?' Australia had of got them and what they would have looked like. if you can Google an Aussie Kiowa you might get an idea of how it might look. Besides this I also did a 1/72 Apache many years ago in O/D with Aussie markings too, when I happened to see one at our International Airshow competing against the Tiger for our Army Battlefield helo contract. regards Andrew Edited March 19, 2009 by Andrew Doppel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Yes - Australia bought the right Tiger-version. Hi Ice225,That is the prettier version of the Tiger. Interestingly, if you noticed that it uses the same target aquisition pod as the Rooivalk. Only its upside down and on the rear canopy. Cheers The only down side to the Aussie Tigers is we're having issues getting them to work properly. Regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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