11bee Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hee everybody, a question about the CIA/SF-Hips in use in Afghanistan. What about the other side? Dshk's or MG-240? I can't find it on the web. Please help me out :) Thanks in advance! Daan With regard to that picture, I think it has PKM's on both sides. Doubt it would have a Dshk mounted anywhere, that is a pretty big weapon for one a helo door gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't know if anybody has seen this link below. http://n5lp.net/Saltflatmystery.html It is an interesting little story about what appears to be a special ops training facility being set up in the desert in the Texas/New Mexico area. If you scroll down towards the bottom of the page, you'll find a grainy photo of what looks like a modern HIP being used, possibly for parachute drops. I'm not sure if this particular helicopter has been photographed elsewhere in the USA or on operations abroad, perhaps in Afghanistan or Iraq (although it is possibly more likely to be seen in Yemen or Mali these days). LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dæn Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) I don't know if anybody has seen this link below. http://n5lp.net/Saltflatmystery.html It is an interesting little story about what appears to be a special ops training facility being set up in the desert in the Texas/New Mexico area. If you scroll down towards the bottom of the page, you'll find a grainy photo of what looks like a modern HIP being used, possibly for parachute drops. I'm not sure if this particular helicopter has been photographed elsewhere in the USA or on operations abroad, perhaps in Afghanistan or Iraq (although it is possibly more likely to be seen in Yemen or Mali these days). LD. Thanks for sharing story. It always puzzles me what the SF/spooks do on these locations. The HIP on the photo looks like an Mi-171 to me. Haven't seen these on US-soil in desert camo. Btw: anyone can tell me the purpose of the 'fat lip' on this HIP? Take care, Daan Edited September 19, 2012 by dæn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks for sharing story. It always puzzles me what the SF/spooks do on these locations. The HIP on the photo looks like an Mi-171 to me. Haven't seen these on US-soil in desert camo. Btw: anyone can tell me the purpose of the 'fat lip' on this HIP? Take care, Daan On a Russian site there was a short description of it. It was an experimental heli if I remember right. Will have to look it up again. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Btw: anyone can tell me the purpose of the 'fat lip' on this HIP? From Yefim Gordon's Mi-8/17 book - Vol 14 in the 'Red Star' series...... "This bizarre-looking Mi-8MT photographed at Pushkin was extensively modified by LNPO Leninets as a radar systems testbed. Note the 'gun camera' above the entry door" Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dæn Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Hee guys, let's bring this thread alive a bit. This one is a repost, a Hip used by UKSF in A'stan: This one is from a vid from DEA Fast team: Any more info on these light blue birds? Cheers, Daan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I do remember that somewhere on BiS forums the question was answered but I cannot find it anymore cause in the past they got moved,so since I was drawning some stuff and taking inspiration screens for dioramas.What is this thing? Flashpoint 1985 CWC Hip was a standard Mi17,no IR suppressors,no shields just a lovely load of 6 rocket pods and nothing more Uploaded with ImageShack.us Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-Sabik- Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Can anybody shed some light on this Mi-17 that I photographed in Kabul, Afghanistan back in 2006. There's no visible serial and no markings at all on it which makes me think it might be used by 'special' people. What do the Mi-8/17 experts think? Hey! That's a Mi-8/17. Not a modernized version, but built after 2000. The ramp was modified, and the engines were replaced with more powerful. That's all I can tell. More information You can find on this site: http://www.russianhelicopters.aero/en/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I photographed a similar machine at the 2010 'Aviasvit XXI' show at Gostomel, Kiev....... It's a Kazan-built Mi-8MTV5 (or Mi-17V5) - all the stencilling was in English and it carried the US Registration N 7040J The one I photographed only had a single heat exchanger/cabin heater on the starboard side. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Fleming Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hee guys, let's bring this thread alive a bit. This one is a repost, a Hip used by UKSF in A'stan: This one is from a vid from DEA Fast team: Any more info on these light blue birds? Cheers, Daan Not much, other than the picture that appeared in Air Forces Monthly that I mentioned earlier in the thread realting to this aircraft. But note that they have the same modifications (DASS fit) that the two Hips used in the UK to train Afghan pilots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark31 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Hello im doing some resaerch about the czech hips. Now i found the fly with the Mi-171S but in two versions. The feul tanks are the bigger than the normal mi-8? I will start from the hobbyboss kit. Thanks Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Mark, I photographed this one at RAF Fairford..... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Mark, Forget the above - I just found some walkround photos (inside & out) I took of a 'proper' Mi-171S at the 'Heliday' in 2011. Let me know if you want them and I'll get them to you.... this one...... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GMK Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Is there an easy ('snap') way to differentiate between a Mi-8 & a Mi-17? I've heard something along the lines as 'the Mi-8 tail rotor is on the LHS, the Mi-17 is on the RHS'. Is that legit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Is there an easy ('snap') way to differentiate between a Mi-8 & a Mi-17? I've heard something along the lines as 'the Mi-8 tail rotor is on the LHS, the Mi-17 is on the RHS'. Is that legit? It is just one of the visual differences. Go back a few pages and read the comments. The biggest difference was in the engines used on them. The Mi-8 had the older TV2-117 engine which was visibly longer, extending over the top forward above the cockpit. The Mi-17 had the more powerfull and smaller TV3-117 power units, they are shorter and usually have the mushroom shaped dust filters on the intakes. The dust filters on their own are not an identifying feature since they were retrofited to some Mi-8's while they are not used all the time on Mi-17's. But the engine size is important. With a different engine came a different exhaust both in shape and size. Also the Mi-17 had the AI-9V APU unit just after the main rotor with an intake on the right side and an exhaust on the left side. This added a more square appearance to the top fuselage. There is a difference in weapon pylons. In most cases the Mi-17 have three on each side while on the Mi-8 they had two, the frame was different here. Hope this will help you to identify a Mi-17 from a Mi-8. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Is there an easy ('snap') way to differentiate between a Mi-8 & a Mi-17? I've heard something along the lines as 'the Mi-8 tail rotor is on the LHS, the Mi-17 is on the RHS'. Is that legit? A Mi-17 IS a Mi-8 (at least its a Mi-8MT) Mi-17 is merely the export designation of the Mi-8MT and derivatives. So, a quick and dirty recognition feature is .... if the tail rotor is on the starboard (RH) side - it's a Mi-8T (whether Russian of export) If the tail rotor is on the LH side - it's a Mi-8MT (Russian) or Mi-17 (export). Seeeeeemples... For a more comprehensive explanation of the visual differences....... Mi-8T Mi-8MT/Mi-17 Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GMK Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Thanks Ken. I won't start with Mi-171... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JEN722 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Any more info on these light blue birds? Cheers, Daan What kind of info are you looking for? Jens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 There are some Czech Mi-17 pics and a civilian Mi-17V in Afghanistan here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/76062-mil-mi-17-mi-8mt-hip/ Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adrake83 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Here's a couple of photos I took of Mi-17s belonging to the Afghan Special Mission Wing. The photos were taken January and February 2014 at Camp Commando. The link to my full album is: http://s292.photobucket.com/user/adrake83/library/?sort=3&page=1 Edited April 9, 2015 by adrake83 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 A new Czech upgraded Mi-171 SOF . Seven helicopters were modernized now. (Mi-171S modernized by company LOM Prague) - two side Miniguns - new nose radar - new sensors under nose - updated avionics/cockpit Video from Czech TV: http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct24/domaci/308621-ceske-vrtulniky-dostaly-nove-rotacni-kulomety-pancerovani-i-avioniku/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevan Vogler Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Here's a couple of images I took of a Czech Mi-171 with the Pall PUREair box type particle extractor that's been available for the Hip since around 2009: Edited October 19, 2015 by Kevan Vogler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Here's a couple of photos I took of Mi-17s belonging to the Afghan Special Mission Wing. The photos were taken January and February 2014 at Camp Commando. The link to my full album is: http://s292.photobucket.com/user/adrake83/library/?sort=3&page=1 It's interesting that the helos above don't have the exhaust diffusers (or for that matter, any defensive systems such as flare dispensers, missile approach warning sensors, etc). Thought that was pretty much a standard fit in Afghanistan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Why do people always duck underneath rotor blades, even if they're 12' off the ground? :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevan Vogler Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Why do people always duck underneath rotor blades, even if they're 12' off the ground? :)/> Because you can never fully trust a helicopter. :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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