Adam Baker Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Awesome job man, the riveting looks great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Thanks Dan and Adam! You're very welcome afterburner! Today marks a huge milestone in this build. I have finished all of the major riveting! Any other riveting will be few and far between, and I will do that when I get to those parts (example: door). I do have one question though - would it be wise to do any riveting on the clear nose section? I have a feeling it's a bit too brittle, but I'm too afraid to be the first to try this out. Here is a picture of all the riveted areas. I also received my Eduard Interior Photo Etch set. The Exterior set is still on its way. I began work on the interior by filling the myriad of injector marks. It's going to be a pain to sand all of them, but necessary. I also began some work with the photo etch sets on the cockpit area as well as some of my own scratch building. However, I didn't realize until I finished all the work on the bulkhead that the interior walls but up against the face of the bulkhead and not on the sides...making all that work for not. Unfortunately, I'll have to do some adjusting. Here is a pic of the bulkhead in its current state. I'm glad I didn't clean it all up yet because I'd just have to redo all that work as well. SLICK Edited June 23, 2009 by slick95 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Camo Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Awesome work so far, love your tutorial on adding in the rivets, gonna order me a set of those pounce wheels on pay day. Definitely keeping an eye on this build Cheers, Camo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I didnt rivet the nose on mine. From the pic's I had, it didnt appear to have much riveting anyway. If you do decide to try riveting it, you'd be better off using a very small drill bit, like a #80, and a pin vise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Looking really nice. It sure does feel good to get the riveting done, doesn't it? I will be going back and fixing one section, but not quite yet... I like the internal wiring, I will be doing a bit of that. What do you think about the Eduard Interior set? I haven't looked at it, but it looks like it has some nice stuff. And I wouldn't worry about riveting the nose, like Adam said, there isn't much up there. Mason, I apologize for bothering you so much about this build, but... How did you go about cutting out all of the mesh for the gear boxes? I have the eduard sets coming, and I think I will build the gear box and put in the mesh after all...just need to figure out how to cut the molded pieces out. Thanks! Before removing the mesh, you might want to thin the plastic a bit. When I removed the mesh, I took a smallish drill and drilled a bunch of holes slightly inside of the mesh area. I then used sprue cutters to clip out the big pieces and finished it all off with fine files. From what I am seeing now, as long as you only remove the mesh, you should be OK, but feel free to double check me. I didn't take any in progress pics, sorry. Hope this helps. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Absolutly great Slick!!! Gonna save this and doupnik's threads for mine. You guys are doing not only great work, but great teaching as well. Thanks Slick for the link on ordering the ponce wheels. Already ordered. I wondered how you guys used them, helpful tip on the 2 pieces of tape. Keep it coming!! Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted June 24, 2009 Author Share Posted June 24, 2009 Thanks all for the complements! Tonight I got a bit of progress done, no pics though. I adjusted the wiring on the bulkhead so there was proper clearance with the interior side wall. I also began sanding all of the putty I put in the injector marks. This tedious process reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask ARCers for a while. Is the Tamiya putty done for good or is it back yet? I haven't seen it at my LHS for a while. What do you think about the Eduard Interior set? I haven't looked at it, but it looks like it has some nice stuff. So far I really like it. The detail is great and there are a lot of colored and non-colored metal parts. IMHO I think they did a great job of adding detail to the interior of this kit. SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avus Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Great work! I only added a row of rivets on my Pave Hawk and I got tired of it, you guys are great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted June 24, 2009 Author Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) Thanks Avus! I have a quick question for everyone. I want to do some detailing of the front bulkhead on the cockpit side (basically the side of the bulkhead facing into the cockpit...right behind the seats), but I can't seem to find any pictures showing this bulkhead. If anyone has any reference pictures of this bulkhead do you mind posting them? Thanks! Before removing the mesh, you might want to thin the plastic a bit. When I removed the mesh, I took a smallish drill and drilled a bunch of holes slightly inside of the mesh area. I then used sprue cutters to clip out the big pieces and finished it all off with fine files. From what I am seeing now, as long as you only remove the mesh, you should be OK, but feel free to double check me. I didn't take any in progress pics, sorry.Hope this helps. Thanks a lot Mason. I'm gonna have to start doing that soon...before I close up the sides. SLICK Edited June 25, 2009 by slick95 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spad Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I must say that you're doing a fantastic job, I have im mind I also take this box but for now I look at you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Thanks Spad! Sorry I didn't update last night. "Kill Bill" took longer to watch than expected. Anyway, I got a ton of progress done on the interior. I sanded all of the injector marks, there are a few that still require some touch ups...unfortunately they are in some sensitive areas. I added some more photo etch parts to the fuselage halves as well. I checked a ton of reference photos to try and figure out what they were trying to replicate when they molded the interior ceiling. I can see in real pics what looks like AC ducts (I'm sure it's not air conditioning, that would be...wasteful, in a bird like this ) running down both sides of the ceiling...Academy molded those. Here is a picture of what I'm talking about (Adam, I hope you don't mind me borrowing your reference pictures to use as a visual aide here.): They also molded the fuselage structure for the rear end of the ceiling, but what is the clean flat area on this piece (Between the AC duct things). I can't find it anywhere. It looks like it's supposed to cover the structure of the fuselage, but it's above the AC duct looking things...and based on what I could see in reference pictures, there is no room for anything higher than those duct things because the fuselage structure would be in the way. Therefore, if any of that made sense, I decided to scratch build the fuselage structure and wire it like so... I'm pretty happy with the results...albeit, maybe not the most accurate, I tried getting the wires as close to the proper locations as possible. After I completed the ceiling I conducted a dry fit test of all the interior pieces. There will need to be a small bit of adjusting, but all-in-all it fits very well. I also began doing a small bit of detailing on the interior walls. The majority of the wiring is covered up because of the way they molded the kit with the cloth sides (proper term?). Also, I need to do a small bit of adjusting to the ceiling detail in order to add what looks to be a fan in the middle. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh218/R.../interior05.jpg Shouldn't be too difficult. SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy! Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Slick, Your interior looks convincing - good work! I think what is going on is the kit parts are molded with the roof sound proofing installed. Your rfferences are showing the sound proofing removed. As sound proofing is pita it has been removed in the last few years. The ducting you are talking about is for heat. At the fwd end of the cabin the the ducts join and feed up into the doghouse to the heater which is located next to the APP. Hope that answers a few of your questions. Timmy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the information Timmy! Well, it seems I goofed up by building the structure over the sound proofing ...oh well. I'm not going to change it though because of a few reasons: 1. The work I already put into it. 2. With it all assembled it's hard to tell either way. 3. Regardless of the inaccuracy on the ceiling, I like the look of the open structure better. EDIT: I asked this in a different thread not too long ago, but I've forgotten which one, so...Has Tamiya stopped making putty altogether? It's not at my LHS anymore and I know a while back they took it out of production...at least I thought it was just for a while to update their mixture or something. SLICK Edited June 25, 2009 by slick95 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Looking really good man. And no, I dont have any problems at all with you using any of the references that Ive got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks Adam! I got another good bit of progress done today. I corrected some of the ceiling structure. I could constantly work on this part, so I'm going to go ahead and call it finished in order to move on. I finished adding a lot of the non-color photo etch pieces to the interior area. Here is a picture of the loading ramp: I also spent a good bit of time working on the instrument panel. It's not finished yet, but I did add a lot of detail to the back of the panel. I'll finish adding the pieces then touch it up the rest of the way tomorrow. Painting of the interior is getting close! SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulo Jose Simas Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Amazing Work ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geedubelyer Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 That's some nifty detail on the ceiling and IP Slick I'm lovin' that shot into the interior. Really looks good Cheers, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Thanks a lot guys! It's been a few days since the last update, but I've done quite a bit! I've painted and washed the entire interior of the model. I have also added all of the Eduard photo etch interior pieces to the kit. The exterior sets came today, so before I put the sides together I need to cut out some mesh! Mostly pics in this update! Some interior shots: The sound proofing is dirtiest above the seats and below where the gun hangs out the window. The floor is a bit too dirty IMO, but based on some ref. pics I noticed that it does look very nasty with some heavy streaks down the middle. I'm not sure yet, but I may lighten it a bit. Some spent shells on the floor: Seats... ...and the gun. Before: After: I didn't use the PE barrel on the second gun because it was way too difficult to work with, and took way too long for the results I got...normal kit barrel looks just as good. SLICK Edited June 30, 2009 by slick95 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Great progress and excellent work Slick! What references are you using? There doesn't seem to be to many on the -53E. I've got the Landing Zone WalkAround book, anything else out there? Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Girolamo LORUSSO Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 very nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 Thanks a lot guys for the complements! I actually don't have any CH-53E reference books...I should probably get some. I've just been searching around the internet and using both Adam's and Mason's references...both are VERY helpful! I do have a few other websites with some ref. pics. Here is one: http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/michael_block/ch-53e/ SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Very nice, I like the Eduard interior stuff. The add ons for the 50 are freaking cool and the IP stuff is nice. I know you are probably a bit too far, but you might want to pick up the Cobra Company seats for the 53E. I got him to do a set for a reasonable price and they are soooo much better than the kit seats. Thanks a lot guys for the complements!I actually don't have any CH-53E reference books...I should probably get some. I've just been searching around the internet and using both Adam's and Mason's references...both are VERY helpful! I do have a few other websites with some ref. pics. Here is one: http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/michael_block/ch-53e/ SLICK Another option for ref pics is the CD that comes with the Flying Leathernecks 53E decals. I don't know if he is selling it by itself, but there are a lot of good pics there. Even as a set, the CD is worth it. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 BTW, it that a compass on the IP? Was is part of the Eduards set? I've been scratching mine and it is a pain. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 BTW, it that a compass on the IP? Was is part of the Eduards set? Thanks for the info Mason. Sorry, it took so long to respond, I was at my New Student Conference for Texas A&M. Anyway, yes that is a compass from the Eduard set. SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 A small amount of progress from the past couple of days. I've been pretty busy lately causing any forward movement to be slow. Anyway, I cut out the mesh on the forward fuselage first. This was mostly a practice session, and it went rather well. At first it was like pulling teeth, but then it started going pretty quickly. I used a dremel tool and thinned the plastic on the inside where I would need to drill through. I then used a drill bit that was fairly small, but filled the area of the mesh pretty well (can't remember the bit number, but it will vary). After I drilled out the mess areas, I used a flat file to smooth out the edges and bring them out as far as I wanted them. This picture was taken before I finished filing. It's fairly difficult to see any details through these mesh areas to begin with, but I added a few perpendicular pieces of plastic in order to limit the view a bit. I then sprayed the inside black. It looks a bit messy on the inside because the paint really shows where I used the dremel to thin the plastic. It really isn't that bad looking, but you cant see it anyway...even when viewing through the mesh. Here is just a general shot of all the current parts in progress. I also assembled the exhaust and painted them. I still need to add a bit of a wash. I didn't take a picture of this, but I did a little detail painting on the guns. I'll post a shot next update. SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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