Victor Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hello all I got a model of a kitech su27 ub ,, I love that airplane so the cheap kit and bad quality didnt stop me from buying it , besides the price makes you build it without too many worries, I have read reviews of many other kitech kits that are pure trash and horrible quality like the f117 and some others but the su 27 and su27ub are some of the not so bad models from kitech, also Im falling under the temptation of buying the kitech su35 and fix all its canards,canopy and some other details but well I got the su27 twin seater and Im converting it into the su30 or why not the su35ub. Im sorry for not taking pictures from the beggining but here is what I have so far these are the crappy decals that come with the kit maybe Im only gonna use the stars but if anyone has som SU27 to 35 decals in 1/48 that could sell me or donate them I would be very thanfull I made a scratch build of the windshield like the su30, you can see the diference between the su27 and the su30 windshields Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hey victor, looks nice so far, keep it up! B) Good work on the new windscreen as well, cannot wait to see the canards! (or is it a canard-less Su-30?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hey victor, looks nice so far, keep it up! B) Good work on the new windscreen as well, cannot wait to see the canards! (or is it a canard-less Su-30?) Hey thanks a lot sv51macross yeah the windshield was easy to do because is practically a cilindrical shape that you cut in diagonal and of course Im gonna make both flankers with canards ..hehe yeah I got two of them but the other stills in the box :) and one of the spruce is the same spruce for the su35 kit and comes with canards, they are not acurate but theyre ok to fix and to glue them on the model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moche Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 How did you made the windshield? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai_Chris Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 How did you made the windshield? How anyone can love a single seater is beyond me. And that goes for the MiG-29 as well.. Twin seats all the way baby! Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cloggy Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Comin' along fine! And how refreshing to have a Kitech / Zhengdefu thread that hasn't thus far been full of denigration! Good luck with both your Su-27UB/30/35 kits ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Ok here I'll post some pics of the process I took to make the windshield, its not the best way to make a windsheld but I took the first things I had in hand, everything was at hand, I came up with this cheap way fisrt I cut the aluminium body of a wearever marker, the cilinder's diameter is the same of the flanker canopy in 1/48 then cut a clear piece of plastic of the called clambshell package that you even can find on the trash roll it and stuff it inside the tube heat it with a lighter but not too much , just enough to make it hot warm not burning here you can see the attempt of canards that come with the model but at least theyre a good beginig to start with, the shape is acurate but the mistake is that theyre like a solid part of the fuse, so I have to cut them and add a lot of putty to make the shoulders Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rom Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 hey!! godd job with that windshield! very smart! good luck with the canrds!! thanks for sharing with us!! flanker rulezzzzzzzzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masterqq Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hi.. good idea on the wind shield, I learnt something new today... :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 hehehehe thank you ,,when you dont have all the hardware and tools you have to improvize but I hope I get some god tools soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 ok here are the pics of the progress again , this time I was adding the canards and shoulders with a lot of putty, this the first model where I make a conversion and a lot of scratch building here I had to cut the canard piece to improve the shoulders I glued the shoulders to the fuse then I add lots and lots of putty, I had to let it dry all night so I can sand it, waiting is the annoying part here I started to sand and to blend the putty with the plastic until you dont feel the join and until you cant see it using this light reflecting method. Im sure that you do it the same way some pics of the dryfitting just to get more inspired and see how nice your work is coming hehe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) (Edit:) By the way, are you going to try and scratchbuild a couple racks of FAB-120s for this thing? OR just R-27s/73s? Edited June 12, 2009 by sv51macross Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 (Edit:) By the way, are you going to try and scratchbuild a couple racks of FAB-120s for this thing? OR just R-27s/73s? well I dunno yet for now the kit comes with the R27 in several variants and the R73 but depending how easy are the FAB-120 to scratchbuild Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zark Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 First of all congratulations for your model. Excellent scratchbuilt work. I know what you are going through becouse I have a similar kit, and I was so disappointed that I opened and closed the box only once in it's lifetime....BUT....following (copying ...) your work, this forgoten kit is back on its tracks. About the weapon load. I have built a chinese Su-30mkk in 1/48scale using mainly the academy kit. For the weapons I borrowed from a friend the russian weapons kit from trumpeter in 1/32 and transfered the diagrams in 1/48 scale. You can scratchbuilt almost anything you want and I am sure is up to your potential. Good luck with your model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 well I dunno yet for now the kit comes with the R27 in several variants and the R73 but depending how easy are the FAB-120 to scratchbuild http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/weapon/ofab100.jpg 6 OFAB-100s on a MER http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/W...0+Bomb.jpg.html OFAB-100 on stand (close-up) http://www.bdia-bg.com/images/dunarit/img_005.jpg Comparison of small-weight Russian Dumb Iron. Far left is a FAB-250 (more recent aerodynamic style), also mountable in sextuplets on a MER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 First of all congratulations for your model. Excellent scratchbuilt work. I know what you are going through becouse I have a similar kit, and I was so disappointed that I opened and closed the box only once in it's lifetime....BUT....following (copying ...) your work, this forgoten kit is back on its tracks. About the weapon load. I have built a chinese Su-30mkk in 1/48scale using mainly the academy kit. For the weapons I borrowed from a friend the russian weapons kit from trumpeter in 1/32 and transfered the diagrams in 1/48 scale. You can scratchbuilt almost anything you want and I am sure is up to your potential. Good luck with your model. hey thank you so much Im also looking for all the treads I can find about these kitech sukhois to use them as reference and tips, Im glad that youre retaking the work on your sukhoi model, I bought this one expecting the bad quality and it was going to be just a model to test my airbrush to practice some but after noticing the mistakes of the kit it came out not so bad afterall, I hope to see some pics of that chinese su30 and pics of your other similar kit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) I never knew a Zhendefu kitech kit could turn out so well. Well done! And very good idea with the windshield Edited June 13, 2009 by JackMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 I never knew a Zhendefu kitech kit could turn out so well. Well done! And very good idea with the windshield :lol: hey thank you so much ;) it is like a model kit overhaulin, its a bad quality kit but almost all the pieces are molded correctly and have a an accurate form afterall nothing to win a model contest or maybe with a lot of work and skill but it can come out pretty nice. Thanks for stopping by :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 Ok here I have a little more progress on my su30, all the little details took a lot of time to make >.< but Im glad with the result so far here you can see how I made the relocated IRST with a part of a straw, it had the perfect diameter for it so I took the chance , I also masked all the canopy, leaving only the structural frames exposed for the primer paint and the fuel prove is also scratch build. I decided to glue the rudders already , one thing that took me a lot of work is to sand the radome to make it shorter, it was too long for a su30, I think they left if for the su27 early models. and the cockpit got a lot of work too, I made some seat belts and the HUD estructure but I wont take the mask off until I paint it with all the camouflage and laquer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 She's really looking nice! Especially like the IFR probe. Gotta show us some pics of the pit man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 She's really looking nice! Especially like the IFR probe. Gotta show us some pics of the pit man! hehehe lol that expresion on his face fits pretty well the word thanks a lot and yeah im trying to resist the temptation of taking the mask off to see the cockpit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rom Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice Job!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice Job!! thanks thanks , Im glad how is she coming , would anyone suggest me a camo scheme for this bird? I like the artic camo schemes but I would like to look for more and already researched all around the net for more pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) :D G'day Victor, My suggestion is purely joking and fictional, but air superiority grey with red white and blue striping edged with silver and gold pinstripes with large high-viz kangaroo roundels above and below the wings and smaller ones and the 3 Sqn crest on the forward fuselage sides with the Australian coat of arms surmounted on a large Australian flag on the top of the fuselage with Royal Australian Air Force 100 years, smaller Australian flags and the 3 Sqn Southern Cross on the outer tail fins and the aircraft tail number in Roundel blue with rust and black pinstripes on the outsides of the fins. These are my ideas for special RAAF centennial special markings for the 2021 Avalon Airshow. I also have one of these kits that a cousin of mine picked up for a few dollars at a garage sale a couple of years ago so I'll have to give it a go one day. Thge silver and gold, rust and black pinstripes indicate our mineral wealth, silver, gold, iron ore and coal. There are those that would say I'm :wacko: but to them I say . This is all really just a bit of harmless nonsense. ;), Ross. Edited June 23, 2009 by ross blackford Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 For paint, I'll have to say the New grayscale Su-35BM splinter camo (see Anthony Wan's banner). Looks dope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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