soybetio Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Hello again my fellow ARCers! Yesterday I finished the paint job for my 1.72 Hawker Hunter from Revell, It's the first time that I use my airbrush to do this paint scheme without any mask! I'm very happy with the results. After checking the model yesterday I realize that I need more life in the panel lines (I did a pre-shading), I don't want to use oil paints because I had several bad experiences in the past with this (probably I'm using the wrong turpentine)...a friend recommend me to use a dark pencil to do this trick (I already bought a 8H pencil). I want to hear some good advices from the experts! my kit already has a gloss cote, so It's ready to go! Thanks in advance! Beto. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) I used a watercolor pencil on my G.55 Visit My Website Edited June 17, 2009 by Huey Gunner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Av8fan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 You can try this if your interested Promodeller wash Some people make their own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Raised or Recessed panel lines? (And is that and African or Euopean Swallow?) Recessed are optimal for washes. Raised are more optimal for pencil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Av8fan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Raised or Recessed panel lines? (And is that and African or Euopean Swallow?)Recessed are optimal for washes. Raised are more optimal for pencil. Doh! Very good point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TXCajun Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Doh!Very good point. I have a friend who uses Tamiya clear "smoke" paint (acryl) on his natural metal finishes to darken panel lines after he paints on the Alclad. That may work for you. The effect is very nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-17 guy Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I used a watercolor pencil on my G.55Visit My Website Can you elaborate on this a bit more for me? Sorry, I'm slow. I may want to try this and what like to see what is involved, technique and materials at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pigsty Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Raised or Recessed panel lines? (And is that and African or Euopean Swallow?)Recessed are optimal for washes. Raised are more optimal for pencil. I use pencil in recessed lines and it's fine. A technical pencil with a 3B lead gets into the space nicely (although even then you need to chamfer the tip). I've always found that pencil on raised lines is slightly too shiny; using it in a recess helps to moderate that effect. Must be the shadows, or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) I've always found that pencil on raised lines is slightly too shiny; . I always seal with a dull coat, which removes the shinyness. Yes, certianly you can mix & match any method on raised/recessed lines and still get very good results. The nice thing about pencil lines (except for fingerprint potential) is you can smear them and get a nice weathering/postshade effect also. A few years back I build the classic Monogram F-102 Delta Dagger. Fit wasn't so pretty, so I would up loosing a lot of raised panel lines while eliminating seams. I simply "drawed" the panel lines back in- worked fantastic! A LOT easier than rescribing. I do this now for all the classic raised line Monogram kits I build where I loose a lot of raised panel detail. Edited June 19, 2009 by toadwbg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Gudbergsson Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I use watercolors cheap and effective, easy to apply, easy to remove. Cheers :( Andy G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northeaste36 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) I always seal with a dull coat, which removes the shinyness.Yes, certianly you can mix & match any method on raised/recessed lines and still get very good results. The nice thing about pencil lines (except for fingerprint potential) is you can smear them and get a nice weathering/postshade effect also. A few years back I build the classic Monogram F-102 Delta Dagger. Fit wasn't so pretty, so I would up loosing a lot of raised panel lines while eliminating seams. I simply "drawed" the panel lines back in- worked fantastic! A LOT easier than rescribing. I do this now for all the classic raised line Monogram kits I build where I loose a lot of raised panel detail. Wow, that is a great idea. This gives me renewed hope for my 1/32 Hasegawa A4-E/F. The Skyhawk has raised panel lines, and, you could say I did not discover any innate ability at turning raised to recessed. Edited June 20, 2009 by northeaste36 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Can you elaborate on this a bit more for me? Sorry, I'm slow. I may want to try this and what like to see what is involved, technique and materials at least.Sorry about that. I realize my comment was somewhat vauge. In post #23 and #24. After so much paint applied combined with light panel lines to begin with, most disappeared. I bought some Wentwerth water color pencil's at Michaels. I used Dyno tape as a guide and redrew all the panel lines. I kept the pencil really sharp, re-sharpinning every 2 to 3 strokes.HTH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Gudbergsson Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Beto, all you need is watercolors. Enough said. C'mon try it Cheers Andy G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Never trust someone who wears a pink sombreo and likes it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soybetio Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 Great! thanks a lot for all your comments! Andy, I have some watercolor at home...I'll try that! Beto. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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