Howard of Effingham Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 on sunday last at the coventry model show i bought this kit. it looks good but then i think that the square cabin windows look undersize. does anyone else have this kit and confirm this? it will be built as a Hind-A. trevor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 on sunday last at the coventry model show i bought this kit.it looks good but then i think that the square cabin windows look undersize. does anyone else have this kit and confirm this? it will be built as a Hind-A. trevor Trevor, I can't comment on the size of the cabin windows but, FWIW, my photos of a Hind-A are here. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Howard of Effingham Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 thanks ken. i'll compare these to the kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Howard, you can find several sets of Hind drawings here. HTH, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sauragnmon Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Ken, did I ever mention how much I envy you for being able to see the stuff you've seen? I guess Hasegawa made a screwup on their Hind-A, as they've got it set up as a three-seater... That's pretty interesting, but not daunting to a whiffer like I. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richuk Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I think the front seat was for the gunner/ weapons officer, so the layout should be correct in the Hasegawa kit. Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I think the front seat was for the gunner/ weapons officer, so the layout should be correct in the Hasegawa kit.Rich I don't have the Hasegawa kit, but if it has three seats - then it is incorrect. The Hind-A (and all subsequent variants) has a single seat for a gunner in the front and a single seat for the pilot behind. There is loads of room in the cockpit - but only two seats. Check out my photos of same :- http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/m-24a.htm Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sauragnmon Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Yes, Ken, the Hase Hind-A is incorrect - see my thread, there's a built up Hind-A from Hasegawa as the first of four Hind models I'm doing. It features a three seat arrangement, the gunner, pilot, and ostensibly a copilot, as they both have the same stick layout. Interestingly, though, it would not be ostensibly Too hard to correct, as from your images, the Hind-A's pilot is highly offset to the left, with that massive panel to his right, almost sitting entirely against the window rail. So to a degree, Hase's Hind A is yes incorrect, but not hard to correct with a little scratch-jutsu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richuk Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) Hello again, Just out of interest, I've just been looking at 2 books about the Hind, Squadron in action and the warfax photobook and both say that there were 3 crew in the front, pilot, gunner and engineer, with the Warfax book stating that the gunner sat in the front with the pilot and engineer behind him. And a quote i picked up off the net on www.faqs.org "In addition to three crewmen, consisting of gunner, pilot, and navigator in an armored "greenhouse"-style cockpit, the Mi-24A could carry a squad of eight soldiers, seated in two back-to-back rows of four." Could this configeration be an early model, maybe for training purposes, which was later changed to the operational version of two crew in tandom with the engineer riding in the back? Just looking at Ken's walkaround there's no way you could fit another seat next to the pilot!! Maybe the books got there info from the Hasegawa kit and took that to be gospel. Just wondering. Cheers, Rich Edited July 5, 2009 by richuk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sauragnmon Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I'd honestly question that, as we've seen the mass of control panels that take up the starboard side of the cockpit. But hey, they might well have had a second seat, but it still seems dubious to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I'd honestly question that, as we've seen the mass of control panels that take up the starboard side of the cockpit. But hey, they might well have had a second seat, but it still seems dubious to me. For what it's worth, here's the info in the Osprey Hind book by Spick. You can see they claim 3 crew in front as well. Perhaps the Alphas still around were reconfigured for two crewmen later. This same ref indicates that the engineer/copilot was deemed unnecessary early in the Hind's development. Anyway, I just thought I'd add this ref to the mix. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 This request is slightly off-topic but which kit is the best if you want to build an A-version of the Hind, Airfix or Hasegawa? I've seen an old Airfix Hind A/D kit in a local shop and I'm tempted to pick it up. Will it build into a half-decent model? Thanks. LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richuk Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 The Hasegawa is by far the best kit, but it is hard to come by and usually very expensive. The Airfix kit comes with two noses, one for the A and one for the D so you have to marry this join up with the fusalage. The moldings are probably showing their age and are a little soft but it will still build up to look like a Hind. The Hasagawa kit also comes with three!!!! pilots and four soldiers complete with little AK47's. Also decals for the control panels. Go for the Has kit but if you can get the Airfix cheap then get that as well. Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Rich, thanks. I might try the Airfix one, purely out of nostalgia for the brand. I doubt we will see any new Hind As, at least not in 1/72. LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sauragnmon Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I found my Hase Hind A over at Kingkit.co.uk - they weren't an excessively heavy price, though it was four quid between the Airfix and the Hase kits. I fully agree, and it's a bloody crying shame - I Do like the Hind A, and I Wish to god somebody would produce it again, as last I knew it wasn't produced anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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