ThatJeffGuy Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Here's the kit I have zero for references so I'm going to trust the (Humbrol) colour call-outs on the box and just go for it. I'm building the one on the cover of the box so it's a lot of wood. I have the Eduard PE set for this kit that I will be using too. I'll post some progress a little later ;) Edited July 1, 2009 by ThatJeffGuy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 Old Man PM'd me an Aerodrome link for Brad Cancian's build so I'm not flying totally blind. Brad did some upgrades to the kit engine that made sense so I tried them myself. I created valve springs by wrapping fine wire around (very) small tube stock and then put them over the cylinders. I fashioned some rockers from wire and removed the molded spark-plugs and replaced them with tube stock. The tube stock 'spark plugs' could then be drilled to receive the fine gauge wire. I goofed on the 2 distributors on the back though when I drilled the holes for the plug wires....noticed the error when looking at a photo of a real engine on the net today. Thanks again to Old Man for the Aerodrome link and to Brad for breaking ground for me. Mine didn't turn out as nice as Brad's but it has some visual interest to it. I think it's time to try to do some simulated wood-grain...wish me luck :o Thanks for looking B) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moeggo Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Jeff there is a great Tip on the Wingnut Wings website to do wood grain under the LVG Tips... Wingnut Wings LVG Wood Grain Tip (first thumbnail on the Left) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks Dave. That's essentially the method I've had in my head for a couple of years. The way I first heard it the oil paint is then layered with Tamiya clear yellow. I have a couple of Evergreen swatches drying at the moment. I'm checking out what Humbrol 'wood' as a base looks like under the oil and then a test with clear yellow and clear red to see what differences that makes. :o Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 That engine is AWESOME!!! Excellent work! SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Youngtiger1 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Boy I am glad that they started this new GB. Who ever came with the idea should be given a modeling medal. So far all of the kits are excellent subjects and already some good skills in works. I'm going to be taking notes like crazy. Thatjeffguy, nice subject and that engine look great. Love the dirty/oily effect. Do you mind sharing the link of Brads model? TIA. Keep up the good work. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mikester Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Jeff, outstanding! You guys are killing me with these large scale builds, I want one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Impressive engine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HistnScale Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Looking very nice, Jeff. I have to agree with Mike, you guys are really making me want to buy a large scale project. Cheers, Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thanks for the kind words guys. Jump on in the water's fine Dave :) These kits aren't that big compared to WWII aircraft. I have the Roden SPAD too and the size of it kinda surprised me. I can't imagine how some of you guys are pulling it off in 1/48 or 1/72. I'm 'skeered' to rig it but hoping EZ-Line saves my butt. Mike...the link to Brad's build is here: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/models/3...tros-d-iii.html Here's how the wood grain attempt finished up....I think it's kinda convincing....my wife thought it looked like wood Most of it won't be visible so it was good practice for the outer portion of the plane. Thanks for looking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moeggo Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Nice looking wood there Jeff! How many tree's did you need to cut down to do that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
majortomski Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 This may help with a few stumbling blocks on this kit http://www.internetmodeler.com/2007/februa...en_albatros.php GREAT build so far! Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Wow! That looks great! The wood grain is very convincing! SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Wow! That looks great! The wood grain is very convincing!SLICK Thanks Slick It's basically the technique that Moeggo points to above....however there's an extra coat of Tamiya clear yellow over the oils after they dried for 24 hours. I read about this technique here on ARC a couple of years ago and it was a 'solution in search of a problem' since then....nice to see it actually works. Depending on the ridges in the sponge you use to wipe the oils you can get some pretty neat grain patterns if the scale and subject warrants. I'm going to do the same thing for my laminated prop however I plan to mask off a section using the Humbrol wood colour as the base since it leads to a darker shade than the buff. This method reminds me of an old kit they used to sell in hardware stores that would let you "re-grain" wooden furniture that you had painted in a solid colour. The kit included a buff-like base colour in one can and a darker colour you would streak over using a cheese-cloth. I was thinking the cheese-cloth idea might work in this case too however I didn't have a piece handy....but I did have tons of make-up sponges SWMBO gave me a while back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mikester Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The wood grain you guys are churning out is amazing stuff! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Touvdal Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Very nice work , the wood grain lookes very convincing cheers Jes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slick95 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 It's basically the technique that Moeggo points to above....however there's an extra coat of Tamiya clear yellow over theoils after they dried for 24 hours. I read about this technique here on ARC a couple of years ago and it was a 'solution in search of a problem' since then....nice to see it actually works. Depending on the ridges in the sponge you use to wipe the oils you can get some pretty neat grain patterns if the scale and subject warrants. I'm going to do the same thing for my laminated prop however I plan to mask off a section using the Humbrol wood colour as the base since it leads to a darker shade than the buff. This method reminds me of an old kit they used to sell in hardware stores that would let you "re-grain" wooden furniture that you had painted in a solid colour. The kit included a buff-like base colour in one can and a darker colour you would streak over using a cheese-cloth. I was thinking the cheese-cloth idea might work in this case too however I didn't have a piece handy....but I did have tons of make-up sponges SWMBO gave me a while back. Thanks a lot for the mini how-to! SLICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory Jouette Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Jeff, Outstanding project to date.Your engine is very impressive too. Regards, Gregory Jouette Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Beautiful work, Sir! The graining in particular is first rate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Cancian Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Very nice build so far Jeff - I think your wood grain is somewhat more convincing than mine I am still trying to master it! Looking forward to seeing more. BC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Very nice build so far Jeff - I think your wood grain is somewhat more convincing than mine I am still trying to master it!Looking forward to seeing more. BC Thanks for checking in and the kind words Brad....your build totally inspired me. Don't expect too much going forward though....I'm a typical 'B' student...moments of brilliance followed by moments of sheer stupidity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kfmut Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Great engine weathering, Jeff I have one Q: why you painted intake manifold in rust color? Mixture not very overheated in this place. BTW I'm also in this GB with Roden Albatros, so I would watching closely over your build ;-) Cheers Maksim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Great engine weathering, JeffI have one Q: why you painted intake manifold in rust color? Mixture not very overheated in this place. BTW I'm also in this GB with Roden Albatros, so I would watching closely over your build ;-) Cheers Maksim Thanks Maksim No particular reason....I will claim visual interest in my defence :blink: but it's more likely from getting intake and exhaust screwed up in my head and not having any good references. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 Cockpit together and I'm about to glue the fuse halves. Last minute shots before buttoning her up Thanks for looking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moeggo Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Looking great Jeff! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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