Ken Middleton Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 http://www.airliners.net/photo/Japan---Air...agle/1554688/M/ very interesting load Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Those are UAV's? do you have a link? Almost looks like a cruise missile Not being argumentative, just would love to learn more about them. Thanks Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 (edited) Great photo! Thanks for linking! Another pic of the UAV on the ground can be found HERE (scroll about three quarters down). Three more, pretty large pics of the UAV on an F-15J can be found HERE (about half-way down). Both links were found by Deino and posted in other threads. One of the pics suggests there is a camera behind the faceted windows. Very interesting to see a UAV on a fighter. This would be a Hasegawa special I'd buy in a heartbeat. Come on, Hasegawa, you know you want to. Release your F-15J with a sprue for this UAV included twice. :D Edited July 18, 2009 by ChernayaAkula Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duymon Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 This must be something new or low-key because it's just about impossible to find any info in english about this UAV program other than this YouTube Link that shows that they prolly are UAVs, unless Cruise missiles have landing gear Looks pretty cool, but why the Air Launch, and moreover, why on the f-15J as oppossed to their specialized Recon Phantoms? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 <...> why on the f-15J as oppossed to their specialized Recon Phantoms? Maybe ground clearance issues? Looks pretty big the high-winged Eagle. It must sit very, very near to the ground on an F-4. Besides, a recon version of the F-15J is supposed to take over the recon role from the RF-EJs. Maybe they figure it isn't cost-effective to trial it on a Phantom (if at all possible) when it will be phased-out soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 Those are UAV's?do you have a link? Almost looks like a cruise missile Not being argumentative, just would love to learn more about them. Thanks Ric Ric, others came to the rescue I see. This is the first I have seen of them, so it is new to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 thanks for the links guys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Okay, apparently it's called TACOM and can be carried on F-4EJs. CLICKY. Even more pics in THIS THREAD (about a third down), along with pics of the next-generation anti-ship missile. Another PIC (one UAV in grey camo). Still MORE PICS. Okay, why do I get this idea these things will fly into a target area and transform into small robots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Moritz, that first link you posted; that F-15J at the top has an IRST and some new ECM bumps... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Moritz, that first link you posted; that F-15J at the top has an IRST and some new ECM bumps... F-15J Kai ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier01 Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Awesome shot. Japanese gear always looks sharp. They seem to make a huge effort to keep their stuff very clean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Sorry for responding yet again to this thread (), but I find this very interesting. HERE are two more shots of that UAV on the F-15J, one of them from an angle not yet seen (and some more pics of F-2s with XASM-3). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticWeapons Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Looks almost like it's carrying miniature F-2s! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat RIO Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 operationally makes alot of sense to me.. the f-15 motherbird acts as the UAV's extended legs, providing the long range and high speed entrance into hostile territory, or at least bringing them into the target area at high speeds, thus saving on fuel and time taken for each mission. the small size of the uavs make them difficult to hit, so the motherbird f-15 would be able to launch these drones ahead of herself, without risking enemy SAMs or the whole barrage of defences. tactically, i can think of one possible scenario. the f-15J® would fly from their airbases in south japan across the sea of japan at crusie speed of mach 1.4 at 30,000 feet. approximately 50-100miles away from hostile land, the motherbird releases the uav drones, which then fly toward predetermined target areas to look for possible nuclear test facilities and missile launching sites. speed of the uavs is probably more than 400km/hr given that these UAVs look more like missiles than the prop driven 'norm'. enemy defence pick up the f-15j on their radar shortly after, and begin interception procedures. meanwhile, their radar is unable to track the tiny highspeed UAV, which have already begun storing valauable enemy radar detection frequencies and wavelengths for future countermeasures. the f-15 breaks for home, not wanting to risk getting shot by primitive but deadly SAMs. the UAVs arrive at the target area and loiter around the sites for 30-60minutes taking photoshots, instantly relaying back to base via satellite link. and then they bug out at high speed again towards the sea. with landing gear deployed they are able to land at the nearest airbase. or onto a barrier net that can be set up on the flight decks of the ticonderoga class cruisers patrolling in the seas. ok. that's just my vision of how they work anyway. i hope no japanese secret police come knocking on my door tomorrow! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F106A Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Reminds me of the ADM-20C Quail. http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-20.html Everything old is new again! Updated of course! Mark Edited July 19, 2009 by F106A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjo Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 You know what they look like to me??? Small F-16s... look at the configuration! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 You know what they look like to me???Small F-16s... look at the configuration! :blink: My thoughts exactly! Save for the dorsal intake and double vertical stabs, that looks like a little Viper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I dunno.. Kinda looks more like some sort of sub scale test program than a true UAV. Does anyone have any info on what role is planned for this? Doesn't look like it would have particularly long range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Unreal! That is so cool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Thanks for the links, I was unable to find anything when I did preliminary looking about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alvis 3.1 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 They are the immature offspring of the F-16 and the F-107. They have to be carried aloft as they haven't mastered the art of taking off. :lol: Alvis 3.1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nev Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 and moreover, why on the f-15J as oppossed to their specialized Recon Phantoms? Well, first of all, that F-15 belongs to the Air Proving Wing/Technical Research and Development Institute. 2nd of all, when Japan gets round to buying a replacement for their F-4s, one squadron of F-15s is planned to re-role to recon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Animal Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) operationally makes alot of sense to me..ok. that's just my vision of how they work anyway. i hope no japanese secret police come knocking on my door tomorrow! I am Sato, Kempeitai... You teru me what you know. Wakarimashita ka? Otherwise, I make rife velly uncomfotable for you. Make you see my good fliend; Japanese bodyguard, Yumi...she very good at bleaking arms. ------------------------------------------ Those UAVs look like baby AS-4 Kitchen missiles, but those suckers are larger than the UAVs pictured on the F-15J Kai. Incidentally, there was some English stuff from the Strategycenter website. http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pub.../pub_detail.asp A model of the TRDI Unmanned Aircraft Research System seen in early November 2007. Source: RD Fisher a model Edited July 20, 2009 by The_Animal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tengu Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Hi all. That thing is called UAVX-2. It is a recce UAV, intended to be carried by an F-15 (and also by MSDF's P-3?). After its release, it will fly a pre-planned route (no guided capability), with GPS to correct its position. Landing is done automatically. Measures are: lenght, 5.2m; height, 1.6m and width 2.5m. Apparently it has some stealth capability and its maximum flight altitude is about 12000m. Four machines are to be developed by 2009 on a 10.3 billion yen programme (numbers 1001 to 1004?) 1002 Edited July 21, 2009 by tengu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tengu Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) my mistake (would like to know how to erase it) Edited July 21, 2009 by tengu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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