ross blackford Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 :D, Hi Julien, You're correct there about the smoke pipes being removable. Like on the Mirages, the smoke pipe was fitted when needed. I can remember seeing the pipes being fitted to Sabres whilst on an ATC camp at Williamtown in the mid to late 1960s. , Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 :D, BTW Andrew, Fantatstic Sword model there mate. Growing up only 30 km from Williamtown the Black Diamonds were a part of my younger years, especially after I joined the ATC in 1966 and during the next five years went on several camps at Williamtown. You have the sit and appearance of the Sabre looking just right mate. Beautiful work. You've even managed to show the characteristic droop of the speed brakes when in the open position. , Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 Cheers Ross. Appreciate the comments. My dad painted these beaties at CAC in the late 50s doing the stencilling, roundels and numbers. He recalls one day being outside CAC having a smoke and watching a groundie walking in front of a fully run up 'sword' and getting sucked into the intake. Horrible sight he said, worse than being in Germany and watching the Me262s crashing on landing towards the end of the war. Regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 No problems, I have photos of this aircraft both with and without the pipe so I think it was removable.I have also seen various combos of tanks & winders Many thanks for that article, I found it a good read. Julien Hi Julien, If you check the first page of my post you'll see that when Temora test flew 983 (colour pic) again the pipe wasn't attached. Regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Man that is one sharp build up! looks great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Cheers Ray,Going to start that Connie soon. Regards Andrew Damn, forgot about the Connie. I was going to start a couple of others using Ryan's conversion/update sets. Better pull the Connie out (well one of them ) and start scribing and sanding... Edited September 10, 2009 by Trojan Thunder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 Man that is one sharp build up!looks great! Thanks Richter111. Appreciate the comments Regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Hi Julien,If you check the first page of my post you'll see that when Temora test flew 983 (colour pic) again the pipe wasn't attached. Regards Andrew Arh Yes, never saw that. Either way it looks cool, and I agree about not wanting to mess the finish up by putting the pipe on Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 You won't notice it immediately but 983 doesn't have its original bang seat either which has been replaced with a MB seat same as those used in the Canadian Sabres. I don't know if you have any pics Julien but 983's original seat had B&W chequers on the head box and I think you'll find that the sabre you're doing had red and white chequers as per the pics attached. Regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Extremely well done, Andrew. That's one to be very proud of. The 'simple' black markings on the bare metal aircraft are subtle and a great contrast. I really like it. And by the way, I got your message with the attachment. That was very generous and informative.Thank you, brother. Be safe! Mike Hi AX365, I think you'll find that by the time Andrew's Sabre was modeled they had all been painted in silver overall paint with various coloured trim, depending on squadron. Don't forget that no matter where they were based, Australia's Sabres were never based more than a few miles from the sea and like the Mirages in their early years, corrosion quickly becomes a problem when you're an aeroplane that lives that close to salt water and that's why the Mirages were painted fairly quickly after entering service. On days of really strong easterly, south easterly or north easterly winds you could feel the salt spray coming off the water when you were out on the tarmac at Williamtown. The base at Williamtown is quite literally just a few miles down Lavis Lane and across the sand dunes of Stockton Beach from the sea. , Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avenger Lai Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Wow! your Sabre looks really nice!! Great Job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 Thankyou Avenger Lai Your comments are greatly appreciated regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cunumdrum61 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Great job on the Sabre. Where is the conversion and decals available from? I may have to tempt this one myself. I remember seeing this Sabre perform years ago in South Australia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Great job on the Sabre. Where is the conversion and decals available from? I may have to tempt this one myself. I remember seeing this Sabre perform years ago in South Australia. I might be tempted as well if the price was right. Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 You won't notice it immediately but 983 doesn't have its original bang seat either which has been replaced with a MB seat same as those used in the Canadian Sabres. I don't know if you have any pics Julien but 983's original seat had B&W chequers on the head box and I think you'll find that the sabre you're doing had red and white chequers as per the pics attached Regards Andrew You mean I have to do that in 1.72! :) I will think about it! Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Doppel Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 Sorry guys, Been offline for a bit. The Kinetic Sabre and conversion with decals came from Southern Sky Models in Western Australia. They also sell via Australian eBay but they haven't been advertised there for a while but Southern Sky does have a website and Roy is great to deal with. Julien, Good luck with the padding. I'd just paint it red if I was you or see if you have a decal you could spare. Regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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