C-130CrewChief Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 You said "rear aspect"...Huh...Huh...Huh (using my best Beavis voice) FIRE....FIRE...FIRE..... something else from B&B you may hear while onboard a Gunship! Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedHeadKevin Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 On an only slightly-related note: Has there been any investigation into making the C-130J into a gunship? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aircommando130 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Yep...Also the MC-130W and the Marine KC-130J are having a roll-on/roll-off gun platform so they can expand the gunship platform. Here at Kirtland there is a C-130H that has an onboard laser that can be added to the gunship in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C-130CrewChief Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Have you seen the lazer mods in person? I have been wondering how much cargo floor is left with it in... I have also wondered how near the max 3 engine climb weight she is with it inside. The giant hole in the floor that looks required tells me that the lazer would be a stand alone weapon and not a Gunpig addition for the future. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aircommando130 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Curt...It's a 50 inch hole in the floor up front in the pallet position 1 area. It retracts up into the cargo compartment like the Talon 1 IDS ball. You know how prototype stuff is...really big and bulky but with the developed technology it will get smaller. I think the ultimate goal is to put it in the gunship where the old 20mm guns were in the AC-130H but apply it to the future gunship. Just a few weeks ago they flew down to White Sands Missile Range and actually killed a target truck. So it did work and I think they are working with the ABL folks out at Edwards. It is kinda funny looking...a C-130H with a drone nose and a ET tail code. They keep it in the old ABL hanger on the southside of the runway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Well I've had another go after a short break (various Air Cadet activities, helping at airshows, flying etc), and had a go at doing some DIRCM pods today. Now they are no where near the standard of yours Dez, but I'm pleased with them (as I said before, I've never used putty on a model prior to this one!). I used the templates Dez put up, and built the putty up on top of a piece of Plasticard cut to shape and stuck to the fuselage. I'll post some pictures tomorrow when they are all sanded down and done. Also been working on the cockpit, adding various wiring and whatnot, so pictures of that to come as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C-130CrewChief Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Hey! Some in progress pics of how much of a pain it was to make two pods would not only be entertaining, but would be useful! I'm watching this build and can use all the tricks I can learn from you brother. Keep up the good work! Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Curt - I'd love to indulge you and put up some amusing in progress pictures showing my now completely milliputted room and a very frustrated me, but I didnt take any. Only pictures here are before and afters - didn't want to get Milliput all over my camera! Using the templates from Dez, I cut some thin Plasticard to shape: This was then stuck onto the side of the fuselage as a baseplate: And the Milliput was added on top. I also resculpted the shield for the 105mm cannon, as Italeri have produced it as a blocky box shape instead of the sleeker shape of the actual shield. Whilst I was at it, I filled the gaps of the shield with Milliput, as well as the gap underneath the main FLIR turret (It probably isnt a FLIR turret but that's what I'll call it!). I've also stuck the other side of the fuselage together, and built the DIRCM on that side too whilst I was at it. And the progress so far on the cockpit (this is going to have to be pretty inaccurate, as there are almost no shots out there of the inside of an AC-130 cockpit, apart from shots of the main instrument panel.). I'm now ready to be roasted by you C-130 Gurus on what the pit should actually look like (go ahead and tell me I'm wrong, it would be better to know now than after the pit is installed!) And thats it up till this evening! Putty should dry fully overnight, so tomorrow I can sand it all down. Next thing to do are the final few lumps and bumps on the fuselage, and the cockpit seats (making belts and buckles etc for those). Ben Edited September 8, 2009 by OriginalMonty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 Anyone able to help on another little conundrum? Looking at my photos of 89-0510 at Mildenhall, I;ve noticed a little image on one blade of each propeller. It looks a little like a black and white version of the nose art? I cant find any pics on the net of it, and my shots are not too clear. Anyone? In other news, I've progressed further in the cockpit, scratchbuilding seatbelts, maps and wires/oxygen hoses. Thats still a WIP though. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HELO53 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 The pic on each prop is to mark #3 blade for when the props are T'd. Some prop shops or flightline guys use different decales to mark them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 Cheers for that Helo! If different guys use different markings, I might just make up a B+W version of the nose art for each prop and use that! I've moved onto the rear of the gunship today, whilst waiting for the putty for the DIRCMs to dry (first lot didnt, so had to start again). Looking in from the rear, there is a big bulkhead forward of the 40mm, the rear wall of the sensor op suite I think. Lots of pics I have seen have writing on this wall in big letters, but it's always partially obscured in photos. The one I have been able to read is (I think), "Killer Instinct". Is this the name of the Gunship? Can't think what else it would be! Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modeler7 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 You are doing great on the outside of the plane but that cockpit is a work of fiction by the model company. It is your kit. That is a fact but if you want a real interior, I suggest you get some more reference photos. I know for a fact that FS245 doesn't have what looks like a vertical pipes. I don't know what the hell that is. The co-pilots side panel doesn't look anything like what it does in the picture. The FE sits up higher than the other crew positions, etc. But if you feel that it just isn't worth all the effort for something you can not see that well when it is closed up, well I have to agree with you. Let me see if I can find some interior shots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C-130CrewChief Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 We have a little California on our #3 blades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 You are doing great on the outside of the plane but that cockpit is a work of fiction by the model company. It is your kit. That is a fact but if you want a real interior, I suggest you get some more reference photos. I know for a fact that FS245 doesn't have what looks like a vertical pipes. I don't know what the hell that is. The co-pilots side panel doesn't look anything like what it does in the picture. The FE sits up higher than the other crew positions, etc. But if you feel that it just isn't worth all the effort for something you can not see that well when it is closed up, well I have to agree with you. Let me see if I can find some interior shots. I thought it was bad, but didnt know quite how bad! I've only been able to find some reference pictures of the main control panel, and even that is wrong. I've been working off some recent photos of an MC-130 (next best thing - I assume they are quite similar?). However if you have some shots of the AC-130 cockpit that would be fantastic! Thanks Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Youngtiger1 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Ben, You are doing some wonderful work on this Herk. I hope someday I can build one for my collection. You build will be a good reference. So, I can't wait to for the next update. Thanks. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I thought it was bad, but didnt know quite how bad! I've only been able to find some reference pictures of the main control panel, and even that is wrong. I've been working off some recent photos of an MC-130 (next best thing - I assume they are quite similar?). However if you have some shots of the AC-130 cockpit that would be fantastic!Thanks Ben I'm just taking a wild guess here, but wouldn't the cockpit interior be black since the flight crew would be on NVG's? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 Next update - been working on the 40mm. This is another new thing for me, never tried to build such a complex shape before so I'm quite pleased with it. 40mm as it stands - more to be done at ATC tonight. And next to what it should look like (photo from Aircraft Resource Center): Where it will be -ish (without so much blank space around it): And the completed DIRCM turret: Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Looking good there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
djenkins72968 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) OriginalMonty, Im really enjoying your progress. I will be starting this model soon (I hope), and this is a great inspiration. One thing though, can you provide a link to Dez's build you are referring to? I did a search but cant seem to find it. Thanks! Edit: Someone was nice enough to bump Dez's build so it ended up at the top of the forum, so nevermind Edited September 18, 2009 by djenkins72968 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Cheers guys! Here's another question for you C-130 afficionados - what kind of lighting would an AC-130 have? If Im putting the effort in to get some detail in the back, I thought I might as well light it up. The cockpit and external lighting are also on my to do list, but I'll tackle the inside (and the cockpit) first I think. Any ideas - I assume its just ceiling lighting in a long strip down the middle? Thanks Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryt Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Check out todays ARC Main Page. There is a 1/48 C-130 complete with interior lighting. Link: http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal1...undmann/00.shtm Its been so long since I've been on a C-130 I don't remember what the lighting was like. I do remember it wasn't as bright as in the above. The AC-130 may have had different interior lighting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OriginalMonty Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Thanks Terry - it was actually looking at that build that reminded me that I needed to find out about the lighting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryt Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Here is one with interior lighting more to scale. Also has a great interior. http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8...0-Doxas/00.shtm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C-130CrewChief Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Is the booth door going to be open? if it's not then all you need to worry about is what you can see down the left side and above the booth. I think it's called a battle management center on an U model instead of "the booth" like on an H model. The light is dim . It's like the inside is lighted by 30 back up lights on your car. If you can picture that. Above the ramp are two loading lights that can be turned around to face forward. I always made sure mine had enough wire to face forward. They are like having two head lights shining into the cargo compartment. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dez Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) I thought it was bad, but didnt know quite how bad! I've only been able to find some reference pictures of the main control panel, and even that is wrong. I've been working off some recent photos of an MC-130 (next best thing - I assume they are quite similar?). However if you have some shots of the AC-130 cockpit that would be fantastic!Thanks Ben Try here. It's under "cargo aircraft". Everything's looking good! I'd caution you on going whole hog on the interior though, it's a beast and a half even just working around the cargo ramp. So much is lacking as far as the interior is concerned with that kit, pretty much everything has to be done from scratch. Edited September 19, 2009 by Dez Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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