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VF-143 Squadron History, aircraft type

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Hi ya

Another sunday question. The academy F14A in 1:48 comes with VF-143 decals for the USS America. I have been doing some reseach (maybe badly ?!?!?) I can only se F14B's and no mention of the USS America. lots of other CVs but no CV66. can anyone shed light on this.

Thanks again :cop:

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Most of VF-143's early Tomcat years were spent aboard the USS America ...

Gregg

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Hi ya

Another sunday question. The academy F14A in 1:48 comes with VF-143 decals for the USS America. I have been doing some reseach (maybe badly ?!?!?) I can only se F14B's and no mention of the USS America. lots of other CVs but no CV66. can anyone shed light on this.

Thanks again :cop:

When VF-143 wore the "AE" tail code for Carrier Air Wing (????? - forgotten!!!!) and were on America in the '70s. Airwing One ("AB" tailcode) then joined America and of '70s.

I believe historically, that the airwings used to bear some relationship with the sqn numbers. So VF-143 were originally part of AirWing 14 back in the '60s ("NK" tail code). Along with VF-142, VA-144 & VA-145). Many of these historic relationships began to break down as newer a/c entered service, presumably requiring more lengthier transitions. (The America finished off the Vietnam war with Air Wing 9 (?) "AJ" tailcodes which included F-4Js being flown by a USMC sqn. This subsequently was Nimitz'z 1st Airwing and retained this USMC sqn whist the 1st F-14 sqns (VF-41 & 84) transitioned from Airwing (?? AE tailcode) flying F-4Ns - I suspect that in this shuffling VF- 143 ended up on America. Certainly VF-143s striking F-4J scheme (with the blue stripe) appears in phots with "NK" & "AJ - USS America" codes.

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AE - CVW-6

AJ - CVW-8

NG - CVW-9

For a brief time VF-143 and VF-142 both had AJ on their Tomcats after transitioning to them from Phantoms ...

Gregg

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Yep, when VF-142 and 143 were flying Phantoms with the Pacific fleet they were tasked for some reason in the early 70's to switch to a east coast airwing (CVW-8 AJ). Could be the overabundance of fighter units now on the west with the formation of VF-1 and 2 in Tomcats.

Anyway, 142 and 143 came over to the east coast did a cruise on America and then were set to transition to the Tomcat.

Here is a model I did with modified decals, (I have not done 143 yet).

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So they transitioned and then for some reason just before the cruise started on Nimitz they switched the two fighter units back to America and AE tail codes. VF-74 and VMFA-333 (Phantom units) then got switched to CVW-8 and the brand new Nimitz.

Later VF-41 and 84 would make the first full cruise with Tomcats on Nimitz with CVW-8.

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When VF-143 wore the "AE" tail code for Carrier Air Wing (????? - forgotten!!!!) and were on America in the '70s. Airwing One ("AB" tailcode) then joined America and of '70s.

I believe historically, that the airwings used to bear some relationship with the sqn numbers. So VF-143 were originally part of AirWing 14 back in the '60s ("NK" tail code). Along with VF-142, VA-144 & VA-145). Many of these historic relationships began to break down as newer a/c entered service, presumably requiring more lengthier transitions. (The America finished off the Vietnam war with Air Wing 9 (?) "AJ" tailcodes which included F-4Js being flown by a USMC sqn. This subsequently was Nimitz'z 1st Airwing and retained this USMC sqn whist the 1st F-14 sqns (VF-41 & 84) transitioned from Airwing (?? AE tailcode) flying F-4Ns - I suspect that in this shuffling VF- 143 ended up on America. Certainly VF-143s striking F-4J scheme (with the blue stripe) appears in phots with "NK" & "AJ - USS America" codes.

AE would have been CVW-6. You are correct about the -143 designation being tied to the airwing. In 1948, the Navy did a major reshuffle on of squadron designations. The airwing number became the first part of the squadron designation and the last digit was the squadron's modex/sidenumber. So, for VF-143, they were originally the third squadron in CVW-14 (NK tailcode) with 3XX sidenumbers and blue trim. That's the reason that VF-143 has blue trim, even though they carried the 1XX series modex/sidenumber in later years. This system eventually broke down because of squadrons not being able to match deployment schedules. So, squadron designations were simply left alone when a squadron moved airwings.

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From >> GONAVY << site

Air Wing	Carrier					   Date Out	Date In	Version  Modex
CVW- 6	  CV-66 America				 15/04/1976  25/10/1976 F-14A	AE100
CVW- 6	  CV-66 America				 10/06/1977  19/07/1977 F-14A	AE100
CVW- 6	  CV-66 America				 25/09/1977  25/04/1978 F-14A	AE100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	16/01/1979  13/07/1979 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	15/04/1980  22/12/1980 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	20/08/1981  07/10/1981 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	05/01/1982  13/07/1982 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	27/04/1983  02/12/1983 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	08/05/1984  20/06/1984 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	10/10/1984  08/05/1985 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	08/07/1985  22/08/1985 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	29/02/1988  29/08/1988 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	08/03/1990  12/09/1990 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	26/09/1991  02/04/1992 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-73 George Washington	  20/05/1994  17/11/1994 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-73 George Washington	  26/01/1996  23/07/1996 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	18/02/2000  18/08/2000 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CV-67 John F Kennedy		  07/02/2002  17/08/2002 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-73 George Washington	  20/01/2004  26/07/2004 F-14B	AG100

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From >> GONAVY << site

Air Wing	Carrier					   Date Out	Date In	Version  Modex
CVW- 6	  CV-66 America				 15/04/1976  25/10/1976 F-14A	AE100
CVW- 6	  CV-66 America				 10/06/1977  19/07/1977 F-14A	AE100
CVW- 6	  CV-66 America				 25/09/1977  25/04/1978 F-14A	AE100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	16/01/1979  13/07/1979 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	15/04/1980  22/12/1980 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	20/08/1981  07/10/1981 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	05/01/1982  13/07/1982 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	27/04/1983  02/12/1983 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	08/05/1984  20/06/1984 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	10/10/1984  08/05/1985 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	08/07/1985  22/08/1985 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	29/02/1988  29/08/1988 F-14A	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	08/03/1990  12/09/1990 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	26/09/1991  02/04/1992 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-73 George Washington	  20/05/1994  17/11/1994 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-73 George Washington	  26/01/1996  23/07/1996 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-69 Dwight D Eisenhower	18/02/2000  18/08/2000 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CV-67 John F Kennedy	  07/02/2002  17/08/2002 F-14B	AG100
CVW- 7	  CVN-73 George Washington	  20/01/2004  26/07/2004 F-14B	AG100

The list missed one cruise.

CVW-7 CVN-74 John C Stennis 28/02/98 28/08/98 F-14B AG100

Reddog :D

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Anyway, 142 and 143 came over to the east coast did a cruise on America and then were set to transition to the Tomcat.

Here is a model I did with modified decals, (I have not done 143 yet).

Never seen any pics of a VF-143 Tomcat witj "AJ" tailcodes! Anybody here? Or did they directly jump from their "AJ" Phantoms to "AE" Tomcats?

Interesting to consider that VF-14/-24/-74/-84/-114/-154/-194 should have had overall green colors and VF-33/ -103 blue! :D

Anybody to fill out the gaps below?

VF >> Nickname >> Theoretical modex & color >> pre-F-14 modex & color >> F-14 modex & color >>

1 Wolfpack >> - (red) >> C1 - (-) >> NK/ NE 1xx (red)

2 Boutny Hunters >> - (yellow) >> - (-) >> NK/ NE 2xx (yellow)

11 Red Rippers >> AB 1xx (red) >> AA 1xx (red) >> AC/ AE/ NK/ AG 1xx (red)

14 Tophatters >> AB 4xx (green) >> AB 1xx (red) >> AB/ AC 1xx (red)

21 Freelancers >> NE 1xx (red) >> NE 1xx (yellow) >> NK/ NF 2xx (yellow)

24 Renegades >> NE 4xx (green) >> NP 2xx (F-8) (red) >> NG 2xx (red)

31 Tomcatters >> AC 1xx (red) >> AC 1xx (red) >> AC/ AE/ NK/ 2xx/ AJ 1xx (red)

32 Swordsmen >> AC 2xx (yellow) >> AB 2xx (yellow) >> AB/ AC 2xx (yellow)

33 Starfighters >> AC 3xx (blue) >> AG/ AE 2xx (yellow) >> AB 2xx (yellow)

41 Black Aces >> ?? 1xx (red) >> AG/ AE 1xx (red) >> AJ 1xx (red)

51 Screaming Eagles >> NF 1xx (red) >> NM/ NK 1xx (red) >> NL 1xx (red)

6? ? >> AE xxx () >> ? ?

74 Bedevilers >> AG 4xx (green) >> AJ 1xx (red) >> AA 1xx (red)

84 Jolly Rogers >> AJ 4xx (green) >> AG/ AE 2xx (yellow) >> AJ (yellow)

92 Silver Kings >> NG 2xx (yellow) >> NG 2xx (yellow) >> decomm. (-)

96 Falcons >> NG 6xx (black) >> NG (black) >> decomm. (-)

101 Grim Reapers >> AK 1xx (red) >> AD 1xx (?) >> AD 1xx (red)

102 Diamondbacks >> AK 2xx (yellow) >> AG/ AE 1xx (red) >> AB 1xx (red)

103 Sluggers >> AK 3xx (blue) >> AC 2xx () >> AA 2xx (blue)

111 Sundowners >> NH 1xx (red) >> NM/ NL 2xx () >> NL 2xx (red)

114 Aardvarks >> NH 4xx (green) >> NH 1xx (Orange) >> NH 1xx (Orange)

142 Ghostriders >> NK 2xx (yellow) >> NK 2xx (yellow) >> AJ/ AE/ AG 2xx (yellow)

143 Pukin Dogs >> NK 3xx (blue) >> NK/ AJ 1xx (blue) >> AJ/ AE/ AG 1xx (blue)

151 Vigilantes >> NL 1xx (red) >> NF 2xx (yellow) >> NE 3xx (F/A-18) ((yellow))

154 Black Knights >> NL 4xx (green) >> NM/ NK 1xx (red) >> NK/ NF 1xx (red)

161 Chargers >> AH xxx (red) >> NF 1xx (red) >> decomm. (-)

17? ? >> AA xxx () >> ? ?

191 Satan's Kitten >> NM 1xx (red) >> NM 1xx (red) >> NM 1xx (red)

194 Red Lightnings >> NM 4xx (green) >> NM 2xx (red) >> NM 2xx (red)

211 Checkmates >> NP 1xx (red) >> NP 1xx (F-8) (red) >> NG/ AB 1xx (red)

213 Black Lions >> NP 3xx (blue) >> NH 2xx (red) >> NH/ AJ 2xx (blue)

301 Superheat >> ?? 1xx (red) >> ? AF 1xx (?)

302 Stallions >> ?? 2xx (yellow) >> ? ND 2xx (?)

Edited by victory103

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The list missed one cruise.

CVW-7 CVN-74 John C Stennis 28/02/98 28/08/98 F-14B AG100

Reddog :D

Cheers for that - My list had VF-14 down for the Squadron for some reason, probably a typo on my part.

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Never seen any pics of a VF-143 Tomcat witj "AJ" tailcodes! Anybody here? Or did they directly jump from their "AJ" Phantoms to "AE" Tomcats?

Interesting to consider that VF-14/-24/-74/-84/-114/-154/-194 should have had overall green colors and VF-33/ -103 blue! :coolio:

Anybody to fill out the gaps below?

VF >> Nickname >> Theoretical modex & color >> pre-F-14 modex & color >> F-14 modex & color >>

1 Wolfpack >> - (red) >> C1 - (-) >> NK/ NE 1xx (red)

2 Boutny Hunters >> - (yellow) >> - (-) >> NK/ NE 2xx (yellow)

11 Red Rippers >> AB 1xx (red) >> AA 1xx (red) >> AC/ AE/ NK/ AG 1xx (red)

14 Tophatters >> AB 4xx (green) >> AB 1xx (red) >> AB/ AC 1xx (red)

21 Freelancers >> NE 1xx (red) >> NE 1xx (yellow) >> NK/ NF 2xx (yellow)

24 Renegades >> NE 4xx (green) >> NP 2xx (F-8) (red) >> NG 2xx (red)

31 Tomcatters >> AC 1xx (red) >> AC 1xx (red) >> AC/ AE/ NK/ 2xx/ AJ 1xx (red)

32 Swordsmen >> AC 2xx (yellow) >> AB 2xx (yellow) >> AB/ AC 2xx (yellow)

33 Starfighters >> AC 3xx (blue) >> AG/ AE 2xx (yellow) >> AB 2xx (yellow)

41 Black Aces >> ?? 1xx (red) >> AG/ AE 1xx (red) >> AJ 1xx (red)

51 Screaming Eagles >> NF 1xx (red) >> NM/ NK 1xx (red) >> NL 1xx (red)

6? ? >> AE xxx () >> ? ?

74 Bedevilers >> AG 4xx (green) >> AJ 1xx (red) >> AA 1xx (red)

84 Jolly Rogers >> AJ 4xx (green) >> AG/ AE 2xx (yellow) >> AJ (yellow)

92 Silver Kings >> NG 2xx (yellow) >> NG 2xx (yellow) >> decomm. (-)

96 Falcons >> NG 6xx (black) >> NG (black) >> decomm. (-)

101 Grim Reapers >> AK 1xx (red) >> AD 1xx (?) >> AD 1xx (red)

102 Diamondbacks >> AK 2xx (yellow) >> AG/ AE 1xx (red) >> AB 1xx (red)

103 Sluggers >> AK 3xx (blue) >> AC 2xx () >> AA 2xx (blue)

111 Sundowners >> NH 1xx (red) >> NM/ NL 2xx () >> NL 2xx (red)

114 Aardvarks >> NH 4xx (green) >> NH 1xx (Orange) >> NH 1xx (Orange)

142 Ghostriders >> NK 2xx (yellow) >> NK 2xx (yellow) >> AJ/ AE/ AG 2xx (yellow)

143 Pukin Dogs >> NK 3xx (blue) >> NK/ AJ 1xx (blue) >> AJ/ AE/ AG 1xx (blue)

151 Vigilantes >> NL 1xx (red) >> NF 2xx (yellow) >> NE 3xx (F/A-18) ((yellow))

154 Black Knights >> NL 4xx (green) >> NM/ NK 1xx (red) >> NK/ NF 1xx (red)

161 Chargers >> AH xxx (red) >> NF 1xx (red) >> decomm. (-)

17? ? >> AA xxx () >> ? ?

191 Satan's Kitten >> NM 1xx (red) >> NM 1xx (red) >> NM 1xx (red)

194 Red Lightnings >> NM 4xx (green) >> NM 2xx (red) >> NM 2xx (red)

211 Checkmates >> NP 1xx (red) >> NP 1xx (F-8) (red) >> NG/ AB 1xx (red)

213 Black Lions >> NP 3xx (blue) >> NH 2xx (red) >> NH/ AJ 2xx (blue)

301 Superheat >> ?? 1xx (red) >> ? AF 1xx (?)

302 Stallions >> ?? 2xx (yellow) >> ? ND 2xx (?)

A few Notes;

VF-103's F-14 color was yellow, not blue.

VF-161 trastioned from Phantoms to Hornets, they where on the Coral Sea with VFA-151.

No VF-17? for Tomcats, there was a VF-171 for Phantoms, it was the east coast RAG.

No VF-6? for Tomcats.

Reddog :salute:

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Never seen any pics of a VF-143 Tomcat witj "AJ" tailcodes! Anybody here? Or did they directly jump from their "AJ" Phantoms to "AE" Tomcats?

I have, one book at home has two photos of them. Just have not figured out how I am going to model it yet.

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[74 Bedevilers >> AG 4xx (green) >> AJ 1xx (red) >> AA 1xx (red)

Was also AJ 2xx yellow in Phantoms then back to red again

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Interesting to consider that VF-14/-24/-74/-84/-114/-154/-194 should have had overall green colors and VF-33/ -103 blue! :coolio:

Making a correction, the 4XX series modex/sidenumber trim color would have been orange, not green, which was the 5XX series. VF-114 kept their orange trim color throughout their exisance.

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