Phatsamurai Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 As i stated in my other post I am new to airline kits, I just finished a has 767 in qantas colors. I filled the windows on that kit , however the A380 I am building now I left them open, any tips or suggestions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 On 1/144 or smaller models with modern type small cabin windows, I fill them. I've never seen a method of leaving them clear that looked accurate to my eye. On bigger models (such as a 1/72 DC-6 for instance) I tend to leave them clear. But it's purely a matter of personal choice. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fischer Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) I am a 1/144 builder and I usually left them clear. In my opinion, they look better and more realistic than windows decals. But as Jennings said, is personal choice. Edited November 9, 2009 by Fischer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldHooker Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) Yes, a matter of personal choice; it depends on what look you're going for.... Take care, Frank Edited November 9, 2009 by oldHooker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supergru Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 1/144 or bigger = fill 1/72 or smaller scale = clear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GCA333 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 It really depends on the model. On my Il-96M, the windows were very poor, so I had to fill them in. With the A380, there are so many that decals might be easier. On the RJ85, however, they are open (mostly due to the fact that I built it nearly 10 years ago). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldHooker Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 That sounds like a great technique, ESzczesniak, thanks for sharing it! Take care, Frank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
72linerlover Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 A layer fo cellophane tape is then used to cover the windows from the outside and pushed down to seal very well. I think poor a clear two-part resin in from the outside and let it cure Hi, ESzczesniak, just to be sure I have right understood: you lay down the tape outside the fuselage and then you pour the resin from inside, I guess. And this is done before gluing the halves together, isn't it? What confidence have you that the "die cutter" has the proper shape and size? And how do you line up all masks in the proper position? Could you post some photos of the final result? I'm very interested in this technique for a future project. Thanks. Regards Euge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
72linerlover Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thank you, ESzczesniak, I'll give it a try on a test fuselage. Regards Euge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phatsamurai Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thank you, ESzczesniak,I'll give it a try on a test fuselage. Regards Euge seems like a lot of work, i would love to see some pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldHooker Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) You're right, ESzcesniak; nothing wrong with a lot of work! It seems on any other type model kit, especially WWII aircraft and various armor subjects, regardless of scale, ultra interior detailing is almost expected, but when it comes to Airliners, sadly, the loudest voices promote bypassing detail opportunity by decaling over the transparencies? That's okay though, there must exist avenues for all skill levels. Take care, Frank Edited November 11, 2009 by oldHooker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indydog Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Unless there is some kind of interior, I fill the cabin windows, but leave the cockpit windows clear. I do this on both 1/144 and 1/72. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I usually use Clearfix to fill the holes (final step of building the model and it can be easily wiped if overspilled) and quite frankly the effect is much better than decals to my eyes... but this is in an evergoing debate with no definite answer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Yes, a matter of personal choice; it depends on what look you're going for.... Take care, Frank Frank you're a riot! That cracked me up; love the logic, man. Cheers, Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sabresandhunters Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Resin Windows, I have experimented with these, firstly using tape, but I found that this left the window a little concave because the tape did not keep the shape (on larger aircraft I dont expect this to be a problem with littlies). What I did was resin -proof some thin card with a coat of sellotape then I taped this over the windows (on the outside). What this does is ensures the resin is proud of the fuselage a little so you can sand it back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldHooker Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 That's beautiful results you got there Sabre, thanks for sharing your technique! :wub: Take care, Frank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sabresandhunters Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) That\'s beautiful results you got there Sabre, thanks for sharing your technique! Take care, Frank More on resin windows. I first tried this on the Airfix F-27 just using tape, this picture shows the results some points (that I learned the hard way): mix the correct proportion of hardener / resin or you will ruin a model or at the very least there will be tears! roughen up the inside of the fuselage to allow the resin to key to the plastic (otherwise when sanding at least one window will \"pop out\" into the fuselage\" do not apply in \"dollops\" apply in a flat continuous layer (try making some interior box work to contain the resin. (dollops will create a \"lens\" effect) both these models have resin windows... note masking curved / oval windows is a real pain in the butt! It is a complicated process but where the windows are crap ala Airfix F-27 and to a lesser extent the Mongram Dak, the results make it worthwhile cheers all wally Edited December 20, 2009 by sabresandhunters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gajman Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I came across this thread as I am about to built the Revell 737-800 and there's some good tips here, thank you. But wow, Wally, both those kits are fantastic, especially the DC-3, well done. Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phasephantomphixer Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yes, Wonderful Work Wally. I like when attention is applied to Airliners such as this and too bad it has to be done in order to bring the model up to "other" aircraft standards. I too have been contemplating the ways of the passenger window as I plan to cast up interior sets with common style seat rows in 1/144. Hope to keep layouts simple to capture each type cabin arrangement. Would have to have the windows as clear and inlayed as possible for good viewing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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